Indians Fire Entrapment - National Interagency Fire Center - - Wildland Fire Lessons Learned Center. Surviving a Rotating Vertical Plume. What Can YOU Learn From THEIR Experience? Firefighters - Remember This.
...one of our genius crew members even blasted himself with the heli-torch on this one... tell you what, we get nothing but lucky on these big fires. there's just so many stupid things and protocol violations happening at once. How many top HotShot Crew leaders saw this activity and din't report it??? What happened to LCES? I'm VERY surprised this doesn't happen more... And yeah, if you saw the debris field from this they're lucky the massive oak tree branches didn't kill them...
This entire fire was a debacle. I was on the IA with Helitack 527. We went downhill parallel with no safety zone and active torching below on a near 100% grade. Totally ridiculous. If not for the first engine on scene holding them up, the first shot crew would have went down hill on it right away. Instead, we were hed up till nightfall when it was safer. I was right down the street prepping the old dirt road to caramel/greenfield for a burn in front of the fire's head when this happened...
wow good job fulton would not have done things any different, stop putting fire on the ground when you can see the rotating plume, instead keep going ,send the engine back to clean up your mess. typical arogance pride egotism got those boys burned. you have no regret, would not have done anything different. yep.
...one of our genius crew members even blasted himself with the heli-torch on this one... tell you what, we get nothing but lucky on these big fires. there's just so many stupid things and protocol violations happening at once. How many top HotShot Crew leaders saw this activity and din't report it??? What happened to LCES? I'm VERY surprised this doesn't happen more... And yeah, if you saw the debris field from this they're lucky the massive oak tree branches didn't kill them...
STSCThomas 2 months ago
This entire fire was a debacle. I was on the IA with Helitack 527. We went downhill parallel with no safety zone and active torching below on a near 100% grade. Totally ridiculous. If not for the first engine on scene holding them up, the first shot crew would have went down hill on it right away. Instead, we were hed up till nightfall when it was safer. I was right down the street prepping the old dirt road to caramel/greenfield for a burn in front of the fire's head when this happened...
STSCThomas 2 months ago
wow good job fulton would not have done things any different, stop putting fire on the ground when you can see the rotating plume, instead keep going ,send the engine back to clean up your mess. typical arogance pride egotism got those boys burned. you have no regret, would not have done anything different. yep.
firefighter97688 7 months ago