Mike Loesche's Remote Collar Training versus Victoria Stillwell

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[depantzed]

But I don't see why this is necessary... I mean, why invest in a remote collar when there are so many other, better methods? Training is supposed to be a positive experience for the dog and the owner. If you are unable to train a dog without the use of a shock collar and get these kinds of results, then can you really call yourself a dog trainer? Anybody could do that.

[MIKELOESCHE]

@depantzed...In my experience, when a remote collar is used properly it IS a positive experience for both the dog and the owner. There are a lot of methods that work, but this is a great training tool. I would love to see some videos of your training methods. Please post some for me to watch!

[MIKELOESCHE]

Are you serious? Please show me 1 video I have that supports your claim of "abuse". I'm not asking you to mix business with pleasure. I'm asking you to put up a video of a dog that you have trained.

[ysabeau2]

@MIKELOESCHE When I do, I'll message you. :3 As long as the dogs are okay with it, then great. c: This is really just my personal preference.

[depantzed]

@shatteringglass I don't think that last bit was completely necessary. ;P

I was wrong to state that as a fact, when really the statement was entirely opinionated. Yes, I watched the video. ^^ He is free to use whatever training methods he wants, as long as he's using the shock collars responsibly. I personally just feel that there are more efficient ways to train.

Also, none of that was directed at Mike Loesche specifically. c: I meant "you" in a context where it could refer to anybody.

[shatteringglass]

@depantzed

who says what method is better? That is determined by the dog and the skill of the trainer. Did you even watch the video? The training looked like a fun experience for the dogs to me. You know what's positive? Showing a dog exactly what you want in a clear cut way, where they can be the most successful. Maybe you aren't smart enough to understand it, but that's ok because what is MOST important is that the dogs understand it, which is shown in this video.

[shatteringglass]

Great video!!!

[andysepul1]

@JacobsCrackers144 Pain? That's old school training. It's 2011 not the 1950's or 60's were they did use pain. How can you even compare a dog to a child? Would you let your kid walk barefooted in the snow like like dogs do? Have you ever seen dogs play? They use their mouths and i guaranty you that they cause more discomfort when they play with eath other then a e-collar does

[andysepul1]

@joshio2000 low levels of stim. You would be surprised how light it feels if the working level is correct.

[andysepul1]

@joshio2000 Turn against you? It's not a shock it's a stim and no they don't fear a stim. Does a really light tap on the shoulder hurt? Because that's how the stim feels. You're not suppose to go high on the e-collar. A dog will actually stress more when just using quitting signals then when using a e-collar. E-collars and e-collar training have come a long way. back in the day they only used very high levels of stim to train dogs. now they have better technology were they're able to use ---->