Messiaen - Première Communion de la Vierge - Roger Muraro

Roger Muraro plays Regard XI from Messiaen's Vingt Regard sur l'Enfant Jésus.

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Music

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• messiaen
• muraro
• regard
• premiere
• communion
• vierge
• piano

[maddpianist]

If only those silly birds didn't keep interrupting. lol I gotta respect the guy (Messiaen) for his devout belief in God and dedication to expressing that in his music, but I suppose my ears just aren't ready for his music yet.

[jre58591]

dont listen to oiseaux qotiques yet then. its almost entirely based on birdsong. it won a grammy in february, so messiaen must have done something right with it, heh.

[Punagun]

I try and I try and I try ... but I simply can't understand this kind of music... please, somebody help advise what I can do. I'd like to be more sophisticated.

[jre58591]

just let go. just listen to it. let the music overwhelm you entirely. just concentrate it. there is no need to understand something to like it.

[sextetband]

You couldn't really exactly notate birdsongs, I think that they're just a sort of melodic and rhythmic source material the way previous composers may have used folk songs or any form of pitch derivation, the design is in creating the work, serious music can't be reduced to its source materials.

[ghmus7]

I love this whole series. The setting is perfect for the music, the sacred space, and it's wonderful that the altar is next to the piano! What a great player.

[Pianist46]

@sharmoota120 This was composed in 1944, so, the 20th century, or "Modern Era". This is probably the piece out of the set that is the most post-impressionist, though.

[sharmoota120]

wow great piece played incredible!! does anyone know what era this was written in ?

[MuseDuCafe]

You don't like Mozart, you don't like music. You don't like Messaien (here, anyway) and you have no ear for tonal music based on thirds - very old fashioned stuff. Nothing more abstract here than Debussy. (It is Liszt who almost always used far too many notes.) I'm betting that Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, and Brahms would all be quick to say open your ears, and stop being such musical sissies about old fashioned well-made tonal music. This stuff is already "the New 'Old Music.'"

[MuseDuCafe]

@alezander666 You are obviously unaware of WFMT 98.7, live stream and archive programs. They're so good people around the world listen to them. Yeah, they mostly play public domain works (its the budget, dummies) but they do cover the turf from very early pre-baroque to the ongoing tradition, the "New OLD music of the 20th century - goad - goad, and very current works. I think Wolfie would have been the first to tell you to stretch your ears, call you a musical sissy.....

[MuseDuCafe]

@Punagun Its just music - It is actually somewhat the opposite of 'sophisticated.' You've a better chance of open ears to lovely sound if you abandon some preconceptions, perhaps melody or form bound. A lot of the greatest music, from Mozart all the way through, is not about a tune. This is not far from a lot of the Debussy Preludes..... Open your ears to rich tonal sonority, think of it as ambient music. Most important is repeated listening - it makes the strange more familiar. Best regards.

[alezander666]

@maddpianist and I MEAN,I PRAY TO GOD,WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS REAL,MOZART,WHO IS PLAYED SOMEWHERE,EVERY SECOND ON EARTH,IN CONCERT,RADIO,CD,DID HE WONDER THIS STUFF,WHY THEN DO WE PLAY,OLD ANTIQUATED SILLY,AND SIMPLE MUSIC WRITTEN IN VIENNA HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO,AND NEGLECT VIRTUALLY EVERY COMPOSER AND HIS MUSIC SINCE 1900,THIS IS THE DAMN TRUTH,NO WONDER PEOPLE CAN'T LIKE,OR COMPREHEND ALLOT OF IT,THEY GOTTA HEAR MOZART,OR HIS ILK,non existant audience 100yrs from now???mozart,always hated it

[alezander666]

ALSO REALLY TIRED OF THE WHINING"REALLY CAN'T UNDERSTAND,ECT",DO I GET ON MOZART SIGHTS,AND DO "THIS OLD SHIT IS SO TIRED,SILLY,BELONGS IN A VIENNESE CHAMBERPOT,WRITTEN BY A CHILD FOR CHILDISH PEOPLE 400YRS AGO"DAAAH,"BOB DYLAN SAID IN SONG"your OLD ROAD is rapidly aging,please get off the NEW ONE,if you can't lend a hand,FOR THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGING",RAISED ON WAGNER,BACH,great classical,love stravinsky,hindemith allot,BUT YOU HERE,LIVE IN MOZARTIAN PAST OBSOLENCENCE.,grow up to modern

[alezander666]

@maddpianist here it is,HERE IT IS FOLKS,I'M NOT SAYING ""YOUR STUPID,YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND GREAT COMPLICATED 20TH CENTURY GENIUS MUSIC",but i am,as the viennese king said to mozart in the movie with tom hanks""just too many notes,i don't like it'",idiot kings,others and see the popularity of country western,and indeed MOZART,i have yet to listen to a classical station here in america,that is not 1700-1600 baroque type basedI

[OrganNLou]

The music always resolves to soft and enduring end.

[OrganNLou]

@Punagun Stop "trying" to understand it! Listen and appreciate it for its unique language.