Alonso Qualifying at Monza 2008

Fernando Alonso qualifying his Renault F1 under the rain in Monza.

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[Ferrarirules123]

Great Lap. Was It Pole Position

[AyrsenF1]

No, Sebastian Vettel with Toro Rosso got the Pole.

[LindoOchaMcCue]

The 2008 cars were the prettiest ever, Mesa thinks.

[alucardv2]

@sivshy Well look today though, The mclaren is a better car than the ferrari and the Mercedes, but even with DRS lewis couldnt get past. vettel got past alonso by being brave on the outside, but I dont mean it wrong, he pulled out such a gap with short ratio's it was still candy from a baby. Even for button to get ahead of Alonso, the ferrari is just crap. mclaren dont have the car. Redbull still has a large advantage, and the DRS does nothing on a straight when the carinfront has a second a lap

[sivshy]

@alucardv2 What hurts the most is this year's race in SPA. It was always the circuit with the greatest overtakes of the season. This year they were just driving around each other. Webber's move on Alonso was great, but I'm afraid It's one of very few good overtakes of this season.

Webber can not be the fastest guy on the grid, but his balls are huge. Alonso's too, but one of them had to retreat.

[alucardv2]

@sivshy Exactly. Look at some of the great overtakes like Alonso on schuey in suzuka, On massa at the european GP 2007, look at thegreat ones hamilton has pulled. All they do now is drive around people. Its worse than british touring cars with the imparity between NA engines and Turbo

[sivshy]

@alucardv2 Well, Vettel didn't get too many opportunities to overtake this year, because he was usually ahead and just had noone to pass. But in general, he looses his cool when he feels the pressure from another driver. He's still damn fast, but he hasn't proven, if as fast as Hamilton or Alonso. I doubt it.

DRS as well as Pirelli tires made the F1 loose its spirit of competition. They don't need to challenge the others in a fair battle, when they can just turn on the wing

[alucardv2]

@sivshy good question. To be honest, if you look at vettel he is just driving the car. He very rarely races people successfully. If you look at Alonso, even jenson theyve done some great overtakes. The problem is, how many of them are gimmicks and set up because of DRS? DRS is a complete joke.

[sivshy]

@alucardv2 So, how much depends of the driver now? The more gentle you are, the better result you can score. Where is racing? Racing considered as putting the car on the limit. FIA wants show, but they go wrong way. If more would depend of the drivers, gaps would be bigger and the overtakes would take place. A standard or sequential gearbox (shifting errors), hard tyres (going on the limit), less advanced suspension (harder to drive). that would be enough to get more fair battles.

[alucardv2]

@sivshy just look at schuey. qualified 21st and finished 5th because he had tyres at his disposal. Rosberg lead the race at the start, and finished 6th. If youve got the car underneath you, you can easily qualify last and get points. Otherwise, midfield teams qualify in the top 10, but often, dont get points, its the teammateswho save the sets of tyres. Similar to Alguesari.

[sivshy]

@alucardv2 I agree with the tyre issue. Drivers should push hard through all the distance to show, which one is faster. Now they play chess. The rule that limits the number of tyres per weekend is stupid too, a situation when some of the drivers give up qualifying to get a better race strategy is so dumb. There are many changes in the racing order, but they are random. That's why I'm starting to get more interested in different series

[alucardv2]

@sivshy lol. F1 can be drove in two ways. What decides it, is the rules. Senna's way AND prosts worked. Nowdays, a more calculated, strategic and conservative approach is required because of the tyres wearing scale. Infact, strategy is dictated by tyres, which I dont like. I much prefered 2005, long lasting tyres with no changes. I like the no refuelling. and then have no tyre changes and just go for pure driver and car.

[sivshy]

@alucardv2 So it looks like we've got different approach and this discussion doesn't make sense. We should not discuss about taste ;)