Gospel of Mark

Papias Fragments:

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/papias.html


And the presbyter said this. Mark having become the interpreter of Peter, wrote down accurately whatsoever he remembered. It was not, however, in exact order that he related the sayings or deeds of Christ. For he neither heard the Lord nor accompanied Him. But afterwards, as I said, he accompanied Peter, who accommodated his instructions to the necessities [of his hearers], but with no intention of giving a regular narrative of the Lord's sayings. Wherefore Mark made no mistake in thus writing some things as he remembered them. For of one thing he took especial care, not to omit anything he had heard, and not to put anything fictitious into the statements. [This is what is related by Papias regarding Mark; but with regard to Matthew he has made the following statements]: Matthew put together the oracles [of the Lord] in the Hebrew language, and each one interpreted them as best he could. [The same person uses proofs from the First Epistle of John, and from the Epistle of Peter in like manner. And he also gives another story of a woman who was accused of many sins before the Lord, which is to be fount in the Gospel according to the Hebrews.]

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[BjornSeverinLarsen]

"The leper"? Not a real leper?

[Xoroaster]

@BjornSeverinLarsen lol. His name was Steve. Steve the Leper. ;-D

Naw, I'm still trying to classify all the healing scenes, but the theme of healing appears to be metaphorical.

[Hereticbooks]

I've studied both the orthodox texts as well as the gnostic texts in previous years, but I still enjoy hearing your "take" on them. It's been stimulating. Thanks.

[Xoroaster]

@Hereticbooks Hey thank you! I've been looking for a quote that I've been missing. I saw somewhere where Apocalypse was related to Sophia. Can't remember where I saw that. If you have any ideas, lemme know. ;-D

[Hereticbooks]

@Xoroaster

Sophia, a greek word for "wisdom" is known in the ancient mystical jewish sects to be the female counterpart of God. I believe it's in the book of either psalms or proverbs, wherever "wisdom" speaks (and wisdom is referred to as "her/she") it is supposed to be the female counterpart of God. She speaks about being "with Him from the beginning," etc. Bearing in mind that early Judaism is ANYTHING but monotheistic.

[Xoroaster]

@Hereticbooks Right. There was something I saw, that seemed to say that Sophia birthed "Apocalypse." I can't remember where I saw that, though it makes quite a lot of sense.

[Xoroaster]

@EruditeScythian "The exposition of the oracles of the Lord" is the book that Papias wrote. That's where the fragments come from, supposedly.

[EruditeScythian]

"The oracles (of the Lord)" is a rather odd way to describe the Gospel of Matthew. It makes me wonder if Papias wasn't referring to another book altogether.

[Xoroaster]

@Mectrixctic Yeah, I try to do these videos without a script. Might have to at least put down a couple notes on these things first. 

[suniseclipsed]

@Xoroaster I'm not sure what's causing it, but I thinks it's highly contagious since I just found myself typing "Niribu" into Google to find out what it was. Whatever the cause, Rick Perry will take care of it. ;)