WARNING: The Surgeon General of Generals and the Lord God of Hosts has
determined that being a member or attendee of a Christian & Missionary Alliance
Church may be hazardous to your health and spiritual health, resulting in possibly
spiritual death of your church. These teachings are strange fire vs. gold tried and
refined by fire. So beware!
ANTIDOTE: If you have already swallowed Purpose Driven Poison or any
Church Growth Multiplication formulas or taken any mandatory covenants
or personality temperament divination profiling, or are already a victim of
retaliation by your pastor, district superintendent, or leaders at the C&MA
Headquarters in Colorado Springs, seek immediate medical attention from
the Great Physician, who will help you spew it out of your mouth. Whatever
you do, do not remain silent, for this will not quarantine or contain this
plague. Report it immediately as well as the leaders who are spreading this
plague, and mark them that are destroying the brethren.
JAMES SUNDQUIST RESPONSE TO CHARGES & ATTACKS
BY C&MA PASTORS RE CHINESE
Warren's RELIGIOUS RELATIVISM - http://www.newswithviews.com/PaulProctor/proctor50.htm
THE PEOPLE'S CHURCH - http://www.newswithviews.com/religion/religion9.htm
Subject: Who's Driving The Purpose Driven Church?
Dear Mr. James Sundquist: I want to thank you so much for publishing your book!!! I have given copies to many of my family and friends! Glad to see that it is now offered onhttp://www.facebook.com/l/92f8c;Amazon.ca andhttp://www.facebook.com/l/92f8c;Amazon.com! Although I still don't see it advertised athttp://www.facebook.com/l/92f8c;www.christianbook.com Is there a reason for this? Hard for to understand why your book has not sold two-million more copies than that of Rick Warren's book! Guess many people do not want to hear the truth. Keep up the great work and I look forward to reading your next book!
Rick Warren Now Openly Promoting Contemplative Spirituality
http://watcherslamp.blogspot.com/2009/12/rick-warren-now-openly-promoting.htm...
Who's Driving the Purpose Driven Church? Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qW6aroPRx8
The "Church Growth Movement" which has become known as the Purpose Driven Church, is primarily the world outreach of Willow Creek Church in Chicago and Saddleback Church in California. The touted religious leader of this paradigm religious earthquake is Rick Warren of Saddleback.
According to South West Radio Ministry over 30 million copies of his book The Purpose Driven Life' have been sold by 2009, and as reported, over 21,000 churches worldwide have gone through his "40 Days of Purpose" program. The actual number is probably over 50,000. This movement seems to be the most drastic change in Christendom since the 1550 Protestant Reformation.
But where is it going? Do we not have a right to "try the spirits" (I John 4:1-2)? Do we not have an obligation to God to "try the spirits"? The object of the PDC movement is in eight steps to change your church from a "traditional church" to a "Purpose Driven Church". The author brings out the similarities of the PDC gospel to that of Dr. Charles Schuller and the New Age gurus.
James has written a number of documentaries exposing the Purpose Driven Church and Church Growth Movement teachings and practices; and the infiltration of Carl Jung and Psychology into the church in which he demonstrates these to be a clear and present danger to the church.
Websites:
http://www.voiceoftruthradio.com/purposedriven.htm
http://www.voiceoftruthradio.com/james.htm
http://rock-to-salt.cephasministry.com
The Heresy of Hugh Ross - A Local Flood - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTIlRf1PVaw
Answers in Genesis - http://www.answersin genesis.org
Propnecy Club - http://www.prophecyclub.com
Article available at http://www.nwcreation.net/articles/ageofearth.html
or http://www.drdino.com/read-article.php?id46
Available Sample Files for download Who's Driving The Purpose Driven Church Chpt. 11 PDF - http://www.voiceoftruthradio.com/james/whosdrivingchpt11.pdf
Who's Driving the Purpose Driven Church Power Point Presentation Part 1- http://www.voiceoftruthradio.com/james/whosdrivingpowerpointpart1.ppt
Who's Driving the Purpose Driven Church Power Point Presentation Part 2 - http://www.voiceoftruthradio.com/james/whosdrivingpppart2.ppt
Psychology Vs. Bible Chart - http://www.voiceoftruthradio.com/james/psychologyvsbiblechartmswPDF.pdf
Southwest Radio Ministries - http://www.swrc.com/
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One question: If Warren has got his Bible right as regards the 40 days would you STILL submit to a man made system, a programme.
To me THIS is the central issue, not whehter or not it would take 40 days.
It is the legalist programme of human devising and imposition that is the threat, not some errors in detail about 40 days.
Being Dealt with by the Spirit is individualized and customized treatment, not by our devising but by His.
I fear you may have missed the point
Strefanasha 5 months ago
the sound quality is better on this one. thanks for the suggestion. as much as i have heard so far confirms why i rejected the purpose driven life: it is legalist. I have not achieved any understanding of God's grace over a programme I practised over a set time, it has been 28 years of God's patient dealing with me since he re established contact with me in 1983 after I backslid into total legalism after conversion in 1978.
a set programme? this is all flesh.
ANATHEMA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strefanasha 5 months ago
Atheists and evolutionists are so afraid of facts & fair playing fields that some are impersonating creationists &spew streams of falsehoods to falsely malign them. The below is TruthLsLife7 trying to deceitfully impersonate me, TruthIsLife7. Acts like this are attacks on integrity & hinder truth,rational thought,knowledge & science itself. But, this is what atheism is entirely based on: fallacies, distortions of its rivals, and repression of free thought+emotional reasons to reject evidence.
TruthIsLife7 6 months ago
@anamneses28 What is the purpose of telling people evolution is a religion?
incomprehensible14 7 months ago
@anamneses28 Evolution is not a principle or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith. Evolution is a scientific theory that is supported by all observable evidence and contradicted by none. Unlike religion, evolution is not dependant on the claim of having esoteric spiritual knowledge. Also, evolution is an explanation of the diversity of life, not it's origins. Now that we've disposed of the bogus claim that evolution is a religion, I will ask you a question.
incomprehensible14 7 months ago
@anamneses28 Maybe you don't understand how youtube works. Leaving a message on @manuppowerup's channel isn't an effective way to communicate. It was by random chance that I decided to see if he had erased my post. Next time you have something to say to me, post it on my channel or reply to one of my comments on a thread. As a rule of thumb, just remember that if you're not on my channel and you don't click on reply, I can't read you.
incomprehensible14 7 months ago
@anamneses28 Just saying... gotta line up with the Word you know.
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FOR SURE! That's the only thing that matters. Here are 3 for starters.
1) Romans 6:23 tell us that the wages of sin is death..not eternal burning.
2) Malachi 4:1-4 tells us that the wicked will be ashes.
3) Revelation 20:9,14,15 shows that the lake of fire is the 2nd death that devours all evil.
Another key point is that the Greek term "aion" and the English term forever can both refer to temporary OR eternal things
TruthIsLife7 7 months ago
depending on context:
"That test took forever"
"God will live forever."
Same word, but time meant is VASTLY different...same in Greek and Hebrew. 50+ times in the Bible, "forever" refers to things that end (which explains why Revelation 20:10 is not contradicting vs. 9, 14,15 in the same chapter).
God bless!
TruthIsLife7 7 months ago
@anamneses28 Yes, Warren isn't perfect, but he's got a LOT of very good material...and no good work of God goes unpunished or uncriticized or unstraw manned by the devil who sometimes uses even well meaning but misinformed Christians to do it...very sad.
Here's the playlist on hell...and the note in the 1st video has 3 very good websites on that topic that explain it quite well..at different levels from laymen to somewhat scholarly and I have much more.
view_play_list?p=7C4256A5E213CF24
TruthIsLife7 7 months ago
Just saying... gotta line up with the Word you know.
anamneses28 7 months ago