Odds of hitting a set on the flop with a pair are only 7.5-1.
Odds of getting a straight DRAW on the flop is 8.5-1 and THEN a further 35% to hit by the river!!!
Now tell me, Would you rather have a set or a straight draw? Pocket pairs hardly need any implied odds compared to suited connectors. One person in the pot with a full stack can be enough.
@caposton No you don't. The strength of a set goes down significantly the more people are in the pot. You do not want as many people as possible when trying to hit a set. Suited connectors need far more implied odds. The odds of hitting a set on the flop are the same as getting a straight DRAW on the flop!!! The implied odds become diminished when a lot of people see the flop because you then get reverse implied odds as the chance someone making a better hand increases. 2 other callers max.
You want a lot of players in the pot when you are playing small pocket pairs so you can get the right implied odds. Playing in cash games I wouldn't play anything smaller than 5's unless you are on the button as a blind stealing hand or with at least 3 callers behind you (unless you strongly believe the blinds will raise). In really passive games you might be able to sneak in with 5's if there is an early position caller (since most people are afraid of early position limpers).
Limping in early with small pairs is not a good idea. But from middle position coming in first with a raise or calling a small raise with a small pocket pair is always a good play.
If you are under the gun you are the first to act. With 7 or 8 people behind you it is wise to fold small pocket pairs. It's hard to play 10's and JJ's in early position - why would you play 3's or 4's?
Against good players in a full ring game you will get killed playing small pocket pairs out of position. What happens if someones raises behind you 4x the big blind? Are you going to call it? Your small pocket pair is only going to hit a set 1 out of 11 times. With 9 or 10 players someone is coming in with a big pocket pair or A-K, A-Q. For those 1 out of 11 times you do hit you may be facing a flush, straight, or bigger set. Do you have the displine to fold strong hands?
i m thinking the same, if i am under the gun and nobody raised before me, i always call with a pair, except 2s and 3s, but with the other i call, and if no raises preflop, it is all ok and it is more ok if you hit the flop ^^
Odds of hitting a set on the flop with a pair are only 7.5-1.
Odds of getting a straight DRAW on the flop is 8.5-1 and THEN a further 35% to hit by the river!!!
Now tell me, Would you rather have a set or a straight draw? Pocket pairs hardly need any implied odds compared to suited connectors. One person in the pot with a full stack can be enough.
to suited connectors.
ojideagu 1 year ago
@caposton No you don't. The strength of a set goes down significantly the more people are in the pot. You do not want as many people as possible when trying to hit a set. Suited connectors need far more implied odds. The odds of hitting a set on the flop are the same as getting a straight DRAW on the flop!!! The implied odds become diminished when a lot of people see the flop because you then get reverse implied odds as the chance someone making a better hand increases. 2 other callers max.
ojideagu 1 year ago
@ojideagu
You want a lot of players in the pot when you are playing small pocket pairs so you can get the right implied odds. Playing in cash games I wouldn't play anything smaller than 5's unless you are on the button as a blind stealing hand or with at least 3 callers behind you (unless you strongly believe the blinds will raise). In really passive games you might be able to sneak in with 5's if there is an early position caller (since most people are afraid of early position limpers).
caposton 1 year ago
Limping in early with small pairs is not a good idea. But from middle position coming in first with a raise or calling a small raise with a small pocket pair is always a good play.
ojideagu 1 year ago
@caposton It's 1 out of 7 times a set hits on the flop, it's 12 PERCENT chance. Not 1-11.
Against players who put their whole stack in with 2 pair and top pair calling out of position without too
many others in the hand is a good play with pocket pairs. If there are more then 3 players then it gets more risky.
ojideagu 1 year ago
@juventino783
If you are under the gun you are the first to act. With 7 or 8 people behind you it is wise to fold small pocket pairs. It's hard to play 10's and JJ's in early position - why would you play 3's or 4's?
caposton 1 year ago
@juventino783
Against good players in a full ring game you will get killed playing small pocket pairs out of position. What happens if someones raises behind you 4x the big blind? Are you going to call it? Your small pocket pair is only going to hit a set 1 out of 11 times. With 9 or 10 players someone is coming in with a big pocket pair or A-K, A-Q. For those 1 out of 11 times you do hit you may be facing a flush, straight, or bigger set. Do you have the displine to fold strong hands?
caposton 1 year ago
@Olekander
i m thinking the same, if i am under the gun and nobody raised before me, i always call with a pair, except 2s and 3s, but with the other i call, and if no raises preflop, it is all ok and it is more ok if you hit the flop ^^
juventino783 1 year ago
really good, but would you never limp a pair in early position to try and catch a set?
Olekander 1 year ago
So awesome!
VulpesVulpes440 1 year ago