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Separation of church and state, pure fiction

Recently a column appeared in The Dallas Morning News written by Bill Baumbach, bemoaning a supposed violation of another supposition, the fictional concept of separation of church and state. The...  
 
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Toneytc (5 days ago) Show Hide
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yea, it shows.
HolyHellPreacher (5 days ago) Show Hide
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What shows?
jhbaumann (6 days ago) Show Hide
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Mr. Jefferson was no fan of religion. He said that he didn't care whether his neighbor believed in twenty gods or no god. That hardly sounds like an advocate of mandatory school prayer.
jhbaumann (6 days ago) Show Hide
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The First Amendment does not say that "Government shall not respect the establishment of religion." The Amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." If this gentleman would read the words of Mr. Jefferson and Mr. Madison, he would find that they both opposed government giving money to religion. Mr. Madison vetoed a bill that would have given money to a church to help the poor because the thought it was an establishment of religion.
PropagandaBuster (6 days ago) Show Hide
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If you are going to quote the First Amendment in reference to religion, please do so properly and in it's entirety concerning religion. It reads:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Also, please show me where in this video I advocate mandatory school prayer as you seem to indicate I did.
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Your butchering of the First Amendment in your video by saying "Government shall not respect the establishment of religion" hardly permits you to condemn me for merely citing the Establishment Clause, which was what I was referencing.

Also, my reference to mandatory prayer was to Mr. Jefferson's notions that he did not care about the religious beliefs of his neighbors. I did not indicate that you want mandatory prayer. I simply said Mr. Jefferson probably would not be an advocate of it.
MrTouchShriek (1 week ago) Show Hide
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The single greatest threat the US faces is being warped and twisted by religious zealots who want to morph the secular government envisioned by the founding fathers into a theocracy. The Fundies already trampled on the national currency after the civil war and ruined the pledge in the 1950's. Even the church-attending element of the founding fathers would be outraged at the trespasses in the name of "God." You want a theocracy -- move to the Middle East; don't bring it here.
Hairysteed (1 week ago) Show Hide
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Praying is NOT illegal in schools or anywhere!

MANDATORY prayer, on the other hand is - a teacher or a principal cannot lead a prayer on behalf of the school, but nobody can't tell you not to pray by yourself/-selves
HolyHellPreacher (1 week ago) Show Hide
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"but nobody can't tell you not to pray by yourself/-selves "

But, what does praying have to do with learning? Pray at home or church.
Hairysteed (1 week ago) Show Hide
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Everybody who agrees with religions' tax-exempt status!

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