@fzqlcs I advocate the dismissal of the whole department of homeland security. Not one terroist found in millions of searches. Stupid. I do not support most of our foreign policy when it comes to clandestine involvement, etc. I just do not also support Paul's ideas. They are the 1930's all over again. You think that you can spend just walling in dollars and retain your american lifestyle? Without the navy patrol show me 1 item you could buy in stores. Go ahead name one.
@fzqlcs Look, bottom line. If Paul were to get the nomination for the GOP, I would vote for him over Obama without hesitation just because of his domestic agenda. With Obama, you get disaster foreign policy and disaster domestic. With Paul we would only get disaster foreign policy. Sorry, Ron Paul is Neville Chamberlain when it comes to foreign policy.
@fzqlcs Please. You people have no capacity of understanding and processing language. I am trying to explain that the choice is not good option/bad option. The choice is bad/worse. Take a look at the map prior to deposing Saddam. All you have there is enemy, enemy, enemy. Whether you like or not, that was the factual situation. Now you have a map with Israel on west, Iraq on the east, and Afghanistan on the north east of the region. It sucks that we have to care about that region, but we do.
@gmillerguy I meant that we are tempting the situation that was caused in Cambodia. The killing fields... caused by shadow financing of internal sectarian groups... but the CIA.
The official story blames the Chinese. You are officially right. We are officially innocent, and the mainstream story exonerates us.
The CIA has been influenced by war profiteers, as Dwight, Kennedy and Regan claimed... but that is not the official story.
@fzqlcs I have never advocated expanded foreign policy. I do support drawn down foreign policy activity, but Paul advocates declaration of illegitimate presence. He wants rapid draw down, and that is what happened in 75 that lead millions dead. Rapid draw downs, legal illegitimacy pronouncements, et al were what lead to the collapse of Saigon and Phnom-Penh within a day of each other. Millions as apposed to thousands dead. A metered draw down would have saved millions. Paul = sudden genocides.
@fzqlcs You may not agree with the war, but there was an authorization from congress. Most people bringing up the "no declaration of war" objection don't seem to have read or understood the declaration power of congress. Could someone please give me the declaration phrase in the constitution required for military force authorization from the senate and house to count as a declaration. Paul voted against said force authorization, but he lost the vote. Now he cries illegitimacy.
@WintersAscension As a result of our "power politics", Al Qaeda chose to kill themselves against an American wall we built in Iraq after tactical changes in 2006. 50,000+ Al Qaeda killed themselves against that wall. Al Qaeda entered Iraq in force and took over town rule where Iraqi law was weak. Iraqis themselves turned against Al Qaeda after 2006 as the Americans showed strength rather than weakness.
@WintersAscension I will not dignify that, just defeat you at the ballet. I will not accept that. You are just ignorant, ignorant. Ron Paul and Paul supporters extrapolate why they would commit Jihad to why Al Qaeda did it. That extrapolation is just false. Osama himself, sighted american weakness for his reason to attack. He was trying a power grab. He thought we would cut and run from world stage like Mogadishu and thereby give his side power.
@fzqlcs I advocate the dismissal of the whole department of homeland security. Not one terroist found in millions of searches. Stupid. I do not support most of our foreign policy when it comes to clandestine involvement, etc. I just do not also support Paul's ideas. They are the 1930's all over again. You think that you can spend just walling in dollars and retain your american lifestyle? Without the navy patrol show me 1 item you could buy in stores. Go ahead name one.
gmillerguy 3 days ago
@fzqlcs Look, bottom line. If Paul were to get the nomination for the GOP, I would vote for him over Obama without hesitation just because of his domestic agenda. With Obama, you get disaster foreign policy and disaster domestic. With Paul we would only get disaster foreign policy. Sorry, Ron Paul is Neville Chamberlain when it comes to foreign policy.
gmillerguy 3 days ago
@fzqlcs Please. You people have no capacity of understanding and processing language. I am trying to explain that the choice is not good option/bad option. The choice is bad/worse. Take a look at the map prior to deposing Saddam. All you have there is enemy, enemy, enemy. Whether you like or not, that was the factual situation. Now you have a map with Israel on west, Iraq on the east, and Afghanistan on the north east of the region. It sucks that we have to care about that region, but we do.
gmillerguy 3 days ago
@gmillerguy
50,000+ ALQ? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
SeppLainer 3 days ago
@gmillerguy The CIA was used to fund the groups that caused the killing fields. If you don't believe that, then there's nowhere to go.
There are two versions of the story... you believe the "scary red chinese and russians are destabilizing everything"
I believe the "powerful international interests have been using the US military and secret service to make money" version.
My version happens to line up with 3 recent presidential opinions... 2 of of them took a bullet.
ParrhesiaJoe 4 days ago
@gmillerguy I meant that we are tempting the situation that was caused in Cambodia. The killing fields... caused by shadow financing of internal sectarian groups... but the CIA.
The official story blames the Chinese. You are officially right. We are officially innocent, and the mainstream story exonerates us.
The CIA has been influenced by war profiteers, as Dwight, Kennedy and Regan claimed... but that is not the official story.
ParrhesiaJoe 4 days ago
@fzqlcs I have never advocated expanded foreign policy. I do support drawn down foreign policy activity, but Paul advocates declaration of illegitimate presence. He wants rapid draw down, and that is what happened in 75 that lead millions dead. Rapid draw downs, legal illegitimacy pronouncements, et al were what lead to the collapse of Saigon and Phnom-Penh within a day of each other. Millions as apposed to thousands dead. A metered draw down would have saved millions. Paul = sudden genocides.
gmillerguy 4 days ago
@fzqlcs You may not agree with the war, but there was an authorization from congress. Most people bringing up the "no declaration of war" objection don't seem to have read or understood the declaration power of congress. Could someone please give me the declaration phrase in the constitution required for military force authorization from the senate and house to count as a declaration. Paul voted against said force authorization, but he lost the vote. Now he cries illegitimacy.
gmillerguy 4 days ago
@WintersAscension As a result of our "power politics", Al Qaeda chose to kill themselves against an American wall we built in Iraq after tactical changes in 2006. 50,000+ Al Qaeda killed themselves against that wall. Al Qaeda entered Iraq in force and took over town rule where Iraqi law was weak. Iraqis themselves turned against Al Qaeda after 2006 as the Americans showed strength rather than weakness.
gmillerguy 4 days ago
@WintersAscension I will not dignify that, just defeat you at the ballet. I will not accept that. You are just ignorant, ignorant. Ron Paul and Paul supporters extrapolate why they would commit Jihad to why Al Qaeda did it. That extrapolation is just false. Osama himself, sighted american weakness for his reason to attack. He was trying a power grab. He thought we would cut and run from world stage like Mogadishu and thereby give his side power.
gmillerguy 4 days ago