Sen. Mike Gravel Discusses National Initiative
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The problem is, there is presently NO federal initiative, and the NID would require a Constitutional Amendment, unless the legislature (*presently NOT supportive of any popular initiatve) passes legislature to include one. Getting a federal popular initiative past (minially) the __28__ states that have NO initiative process, and the 18 states that do but allow the legislature to veto or abolish popular initiative just ain't gonna happen. The whole thing is just a Federalist wet dream.
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can we delete a post once it's posted?.
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I support a National Initiative system if nothing else then just for the ablity to repeal stupid laws likes The Healthcare Bill which will be passed soon.
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California's defecit and all the money these intiatives have committed to it for one. I know representative gov't is just as fiscally irresponsible but if this alternative doesn't address the issue, I concerned about it. However, if Gravel's system has a way of guarding against fiscal irresponsibility I'm all ears.
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Then you are on of those that haven't done anything. We can do something. America isn't only the those representatives in those seats. They make us believe that we don't have the power. Keep thinking that buddy. I may not know a lot about politics and the fancy terminology, but that's all it is, words. They fuck us over and we are letting them do it.
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direct democracy is real in 24 states. and it works. so what are you afraid of when you're confronted with the idea of us all voting on federal proposals? what harm could it do to turn our polls and petitions in real government action?
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the founders were slave merchants. How on Earth can you idolize someone that had 80 children with his slaves?
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statists? you mean people that believe in America?
we dont have the power to do Jack Shit because of the confines of the Constitution.
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The idea of direct democracy is worthy of ridicule. I will look into the National Initiative more closely to see what it is all about. As it is said (at the risk of more cliche) the devil is in the details.
We definitely do need to solve the "conundrum of broken representative government" and we "liberty minded folks" do need to come together.
As to your reference to the "greedy protest mentality" I don't know what you mean by that. Would you define that for me?
thanks
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BTW, this comment has many cliches that I have seen from Ron Paul supporters to ridicule the concept of direct democracy. A suggestion: Don't derogatorily call the National Initiative "pure democracy" if you want your comments to be taken seriously. If we're ever going to solve the conundrum of broken representative government, we'll have to get past the greedy protest mentality that's keeping us in the dark ages. That would mean actually having a consensus among "liberty minded folks."
My goodness I love this man
Socrabess 4 years ago 11
I've researched the National Initiative for Democracy, and find that it's sound. This would indeed put Government in the hands of people who want to affect change.
Mike Gravel has won my support on this issue and my respect as a man of vision.
I regret like hell my previous stupid comments about Mike Gravel.
robclary 4 years ago 7