Anonymous interview with Graham Berry about Scientology after the "This is Scientology" conference in Hamburg (2/2)

Transcript:
That's very good! I didn't get that, I was inside during that time. But what I really found disturbing were the kids distributing the black PR in front of the building. Did you see them?

I didn't see it other than looking down from the windows and when we were driving in, but that isn't anything unusual. And what they say in their black PR is not unusual, it is of course outrageous, none of us are neo-nazis and none of us are storm troopers and the like but they call us that anyway. And perhaps someone might sue them eventually for defamation.

So, how did you like the event at all?

It was a big win, it was packed to capacity, I think, and it was attended by a lot of interesting people from right across Europe, people from the government, people from NGOs and non-profits, lots of Anonymous and lots of interested people from the public. And the panel, I think was an interesting panel. Larry Brennan gave an excellent speech on his involvement in the corporate reorganisation of Scientology back in 1981 and 1982. The reorganisation has lead to the current structure which he explains in his affidavit which is on the internet, 'The affidavit of Lawrence Brennan' I think, or maybe 'The affivadit of Larry Brennan' it can be found under that term. Then Mark Headley spoke about some of his experiences during his 15 years as a staff member at the international headquarters at Golden Era Productions in Gilman Hot Springs near Hemet, California. He has lots of interesting anecdotes about the abuses and violence and the typical assaults committed on staff members by David Miscavage and some of the brutality that is conducted there. One story he didn't tell, that is particularly horrifying, is one set of lower conditions he had to do. D.M. apparently is always looking for something worse to punish staff members with. And this time he came up with the sewage ponds. Out in Hemet they have sewage ponds and so Mark Headley, for one ethics handling, had to spend a number of days working in the sewage ponds up to his thighs in sewage, without any protection whatsoever. And that has led to have him to having permanent restroom problems. So that's the sort of dangerous thing that Scientology, and especially David Miscavage, can engage you. So Mark Headley spoke very emotionally about his experiences at Gold Base. Jason Beghe spoke publicly about his experiences as a celebrity and the sense of betrayal he felt when he discovered the true dark side of Scientology. And you can probably see what he said on the internet. And then I spoke on how Scientology influences the U.S. legal system for its own ends and I think that's probably on the internet already and if it's not the text of my speech will be posted sometime next week.

The aftermath of the conference. Do you already know of things that came out of it?

I've just spoken about the public event that was on Thursday evening. And there was a media conference, a press conference that morning and the results of that press conference have already started appearing in the press. And that was very interesting, some of the questions that were asked by the media about the current condition of Scientology and its decline in both numbers and income and its stat crashes and declining in G.I. or grows income, decline in staff members. More people have to deal with more problems.., sorry. Less people dealing with more problems and less money. So that was on the Thursday morning and on the Friday we had a very interesting closed door briefing and discussion with some of the representatives from different governments across Europe and some of the different NGOs that are working with the governments to deal with some of the crime and abuse and infiltration of the Scientology enterprise here in Europe. And we are already seeing the results of that in terms of increased cooperation by those with knowledge with those who need knowledge. And I'm speaking now of prosecutors and government officials who need the information that some of us have and some of us have access to so they can better do the job they are doing now. The Belgium court case being one of them

And now for the Anonymous crowd. Was Anonymous ever a theme in all this or mentioned?

Yes, Anonymous of course made the event even more successful cause they were there in great numbers from all across Europe. We hade Anonymous from Ireland, we had Anonymous from England, Anonymous from all across Germany, from Berlin, from Hamburg, from Munich, from Stuttgart, there were people from Cyprus. It was an epic event for Anonymous and so much more successfully because of Anonymous and hopefully Anonymous can help us build on this success with similar events both here and in the United States.
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[Ogsonofgroo]

A great interview, thank you for posting these!

Does any one know if there'll be a transcript of the conference made available? Or is there one already out there? Just curious.

[caekisalie]

there are transcripts of every speech buried in the mega long thread about this on WWP....

I´ve looked for the graham berry one just a few days ago, must be page 21 or so..

[xenuburger]

Please correct the subtitle -- Marc Headley suffered permanent *respiratory* problems from working in the sewage ponds with no protective gear.

[caekisalie]

I added an annotation to that subtitle, I´ll fix the video as soon as I can

[Keekeeleekee]

Yeah Baby!

I hope Graham goes to France and helps them with their case against scientology - I'm sure he will.

davey and moxon - I bet you shat bricks!

[highoverlord1]

yay part 2

[LordAvoc]

I think all governments should collect back Taxes on CO$ once it starts getting taxed as a business and not a religion, and you know it will. Well either that or just get dismantled for the scam it really is.

[myckiisstarr]

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[frogzzee]

Scientology just keeps digging it self a bigger hole for them self.....

when will D M understand STOP active FAIR GAME policey lol... just keep on doing what your doing scientology your fools full of hate ! Protest scientology active fair game ...

[Inkeyesdave]

lots of anonymous

[80Perkele]

Thank you for uploading....!keep it up!

[80Perkele]

Yes you are...I'm making people around me in the field I work in tune in and check the videos.I also ask them to spread the information!

I believe it has help a lot...!thanks