Tragedy of Pakistan and Ahmadis 1 of 3

The constitutional mess of Pakistan, its causes and effects.

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[MrAHMADANEEQ]

Ahmadiyyat Zindabaad

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[ali78629]

dusre wasal ka jawab kee pakistan bane mein qayano ka zyada haat tha wase aap muj ko ye batyen kee un waqat qayano kee tadad kya thi hazrno kee tadad mein hun gee lakno kee tadad mein nein the aur jab batho kee baat kerte hein us waqt pakistan kee qul tadad 7 kroer thi aur us mein qayadi loog ktne the jino nee ppp ko woot diye

[ali78629]

muslman ka matalb ha jo allaha aur rasool pee iman rakta ho ager rasool mohmmad s,w kee bad kise ko nabi manta ho wo muslman nein jatne qadyani see mein sawal keya ha wo ye hee kate hein abi nabut chle gee aur jab imam mahdi ayen gee to un kee kuch nashnya hun gee sab see bari nashni un kee pass jo ho gee jo koye bee zaban bole ga usi kee zaban mein jawab de gee jis tarha hazrat sulman diya karte thee

[amoralis123]

@MsRehman94 to let their religion be infiltrated by stupid concepts: Occultation, Devotion, Sanctimony of Certain individuals & many more. Their leader took undue advantage of such concepts. Like the Talmud, Muslims also suffer the same fate: Narrations & Muhammad's Character. Both are only hearsay without concrete evidence to either. It is a very big mess.

I am not here to solve or to resolve. I am only a humble researcher of their faith. Good luck.

[amoralis123]

@MsRehman94 with these people & Muslims is the BELIEF of Muslims that Muhammed was the last prophet and no prophet can come after him. These people have twisted the term to justify that yes, a prophet can come but..and then they use many excuses about his declaration of prophethood. It is a total mess. I have been trying to understand the man & his message. There are many cobwebs that one get frustrated just to read the very verbose writings of Mirza, his son & others. It is also Muslims fault

[amoralis123]

@MsRehman94 their leaders claim of being a Nabi. The problem is the Arabic language & its translation into English & their language. Even an educated Muslims/Mirzai does not know Arabic, thus, becomes prey to charlatanism. It is the same with Christians/Mornons. How many of them know Hebrew or Aramaic. They appear to be more of a Cult than a religion. But then Christians call Islam a Cult, so do Jews to Christians. All of them are right in their perspective due to their beliefs. The real problem

[amoralis123]

@MsRehman94 I am a non believer. My studies of Abraham's Trio is a personal journey for the last 10+ years.

There is a lot of obfuscation created by these people to beguile the innocent. Most religionists lure people to their faith. These people, to the best of studies, are extremely cunning in their presentation of their faith. The crux of the matter is the FINALITY/SEAL on PROPHETHOOD. In Arabic the term means exactly what the Muslims believe. These people have a twist on the term to justify.

[MsRehman94]

@amoralis123 okay well according to what i know.. He was the promised messiah and the imam mehdi (a.s)

he wa not a prophet..

"messiah ayega aur mehdi bhi ayega, aur woh messiah lazimun nabiullah hoga".. i got this from a video of hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmed.

he was not a nabi nor a prophet..!

thats what i've always learnt, i dont know what you're talking bout... and plus Hazrat Muhammad (s.a.w.w) was the last prophet of Allah.. no one came after him and never will.... :)

are you an ahmadi?

[amoralis123]

@MsRehman94 If you are a follower of this faith, then, you must read his writings. He categorically proclaimed to be a Prophet/Nabi not an Imam only. Had it been so, there would have been no problem with Muslims. The main issue is his prophethood. Muslims don't care much about Imams, Mehdies & others. They only care about the sanctity of their Prophet & him being the last sealing prophethood forever.

Check before you comment.

The whole shebang is his declaration of himself as a prophet.

[MsRehman94]

@amoralis123 he was not a prophet..! he was the imam mahdi (a.s)...!

anything else?

[junaidumm]

me Molvi nahi hoo...But Muslims ki Tareef me aik ye Baath bhi hay ke MUHAMMAD sw ko akri Nabi Man na ..awar tum loog Mirza gholam ahmed ko bhi Peghambar mante hoo..jhoo ye wrong hay