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@suddenlyitsobvious So your opinion is that things are worse now than ever? That all are efforts in increasing life expectancy, creating modern medicine, understanding the world, technology, etc. is no way an indication that we have moved towards better lives than the cavemen lived?
astroboomboy 1 month ago
@astroboomboy
...some questionable 'plumming' interventions on unsound/sick organisms.
I suggest you use more reasonable terms, 'enhancing biology' is grossly inadequate for what you are referring to...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 month ago
@astroboomboy
Your use of the phrase 'biological enhancement' is, to put it mildly, confusing, and considering the elated context of your glorification of technology, quite unsound.
Indeed enhancement means/webster:
'especially: to increase or improve in value, quality, desirability, or attractiveness'
Coupling this term to 'biology' (Webster: 'the life processes especially of an organism or group') suggests an improvement in design, when you are in reality merely glorifying...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 month ago
@suddenlyitsobvious What is it that you are trying to say exactly? Biological enhancement is fairly basic now, but will develop exponentially in the future. We will enhance most of our biology at some point.
My grandmother would have certainly died as her heart can barely pump, and without the electronics in her heart it would stop, as it did before they put it there.
astroboomboy 1 month ago
@astroboomboy
...your forte, as exemplified by your redundant statement 'Yes there is still poverty, but it is far less than 100 years ago'.
And what's THIS, Socrates: 'Generally everything is better, but of course no perfect'?
As far as pacemakers go, perhaps you ought to see one to get an inkling of what an atrocity it is. You have no way of knowing your grandparents would have died without pacemakers.
Seem deluded? Your OPINION has been noted.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 month ago
@astroboomboy
'You can't think of one technological enhancement to our biology? Your understanding is very poor. My grandparents would both be dead if it wasn't for their pacemakers.'
OK, I see your 'argumen't. by the same token we are to consider contact lenses or any prosthesis an 'enhancement to our biology'? I assumed your enthusiasm and certainly your PHRASEOLOGY -'ENHANCING BIOLOGY'- was indicative of some more ambitious thinking, but then again, perhaps 'thinking' is not..
suddenlyitsobvious 1 month ago
@suddenlyitsobvious You can't think of one technological enhancement to our biology? Your understanding is very poor. My grandparents would both be dead if it wasn't for their pacemakers. I would be dead if it wasn't for modern medicine, and so would probably 80% of the worlds population.
Yes there is still poverty, but it is far less than 100 years ago. Generally everything is better, but of course no perfect. You seem to be deluded.
astroboomboy 1 month ago
@astroboomboy
...any animal finds in nature.
'Wealth?'
Haven't you noticed society is swamped in DEBT? That money IS debt? That people are increasingly going to have to obey and work like slaves to PAY OFF the debt to their masters?
What wealth is there but nature, sound minds? Your little paper bills are trash and so are most of the things you buy with it.
And yes, I do have a computer, because it's the only way to figure out where this nightmare is heading.
suddenlyitsobvious 1 month ago
@astroboomboy
...plentiful.
You can of course compare the current situation to serfdom in the middle ages with its high mortality due to poor nutrition, poor hygiene and execrable circumstances.
The reason countless people haven't figured out yet how utterly depraved and toxic the med system is is precisely for this reason: the comparison with an even worse standard.
'Look how far we've come, how much longer we live today'.
Pfft! Of course. We have food now, food mind you...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 month ago
@astroboomboy
'It would be impossible for us to even have this conversation without changing the world.'
Oh right, the great argument: we're using a computer so technology is marvellous.
Unimaginable wealth? 1 billion starving in the world though nature is PLENTIFUL.
Medicine that saves? You have got to be joking. All pills are toxic and the medical system has a profound investment in people being sick.
Why are untold millions sick in the West today even though food is...
suddenlyitsobvious 1 month ago