Richard Dawkins in Five Minutes from the BBC
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@XN0R "Gnosis" refers to knowledge. "A"gnosis means lack of knowledge. "Theist" refers to belief in a deity. "A"theist means lack of belief in a diety. Richard Dawkins does not believe in a deity, but he is not positive. There can also be an agnostic theist (not sure, but believes in god), a gnostic atheist (sure there is no god), or a gnostic theist (sure there is a god).
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Your question may have been sufficiently answered by now, but you can be both agnostic AND atheist; they're not mutually exclusive. I'm an agnostic atheist. I don't claim to know for certain that a god of some kind does or doesn't exist (agnostic), but at the same time I have no belief that any do (atheist).
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oh. the last thing he said is "the only reason for disproving god is that many people believe in him..".
i wonder what he would have said if the time went on.
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He describes himself as technically agnostic - he can not disprove any deity or fairies or hobgoblins. All have the extremely unlikely possibility of existing considering there's no evidence for them.
But - all of them are so unlikely that "atheist" is the correct definition.
That's how we get terms such as "strong atheist" and "weak atheist"
In philosophical terms, Atheism is a "reductio ad absurdum":
Atheism claims in absolute terms, that there is no absolute. [ A=~A, oxymoron - QED]
@1:11-1:30 Dawkins says we are all "Agnostic"
...hang on, I thought he was an "Atheist"?
(make your mind up Richard)
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XN0R 2 years ago
I'm studying for a Masters in Philosophy at the moment - if only you were right and these huge issues could be reduced to: A=~A, oxymoron - QED
I think that "In philosophical terms, Atheism is a reductio ad absurdum" is only an argument from a certain strand of theists - it's hardly uncontested!!
peterdunkley 2 years ago
I can't see how you can contest:
"I am uncertain of certainty"
(including that statement itself?)
All Atheism does is cause a paradoxical reduction to "I don't know".
Which is what Dawkins implies by "technically we're all Agnostic".
It's like UFO's - we know they exist, we just don't know what they are!
Lack of evidence to the contrary is no excuse either - if we can't agree on terms.
It's Form vs Function.
Metaphysics is key.
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XN0R 2 years ago
As I said, that might be compelling from your perspective, but you are actually suggesting that all atheists define their non-belief in a particular context. Only you are contesting "I am uncertain of uncertainty"
Why do you think that atheism creates a paradoxical reaction to "I don't know"?
Do we know UFOs exist? That surely depends upon defining the meaning of 'UFO'.... You have a raised an issue for the philosophical language pedants that could run for years!
peterdunkley 2 years ago
I'm not sure what you mean by evidence to the contrary, either. Surely, an atheist sees no evidence of a god - or they would be a agnostic by definition?
peterdunkley 2 years ago
Nice to have a chat, though!! I should point out that I only posted this video to help someone out!
peterdunkley 2 years ago