Spanking 2.1

The first one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ0Ru_tLcFs
2.2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arXO-rn0Hgc
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It is not teaching them about life... in life a cop does not pull you over for speeding, slap you then let you go on your way. There are environmental consequences for choices.
When I was a kid I WANTED a spanking because it was easier.
The kids that changed their behavior after a spanking were WORKING their parents because they were smarter than their parents... I envied them.

"http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9708/14/nfm.spanking/index.html

Study: Spanking kids leads to long-term bad behavior
August 14, 1997
Web posted at: 9:37 p.m. EDT (0137 GMT)
CHICAGO (CNN) -- In the long run, it turns out that sparing the rod may not spoil the child after all. Indeed, according to a study released Thursday, the opposite may be true: Spanking a child may produce long-term ill effects.

Based on interviews with the mothers of about 3,000 children, researcher Murray Straus of the University of New Hampshire found that corporal punishment is counterproductive, resulting in more antisocial behavior by children in later years.

Parents may not see this "boomerang" effect because it happens over weeks or months, according to the study, which appears in the latest issue of the American Medical Association's Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine.

"Spanking chips away at the child's liking for, and trust of, the parent," Straus said. "One has to look at long-term effects of these things."

CNN's Pat Etheridge reports.
Researchers analyzed survey data from 807 mothers of children ages 6 to 9, taken in 1988 and 1990. They compared levels of antisocial behavior among spanked and unspanked children over that interval.

The more spanking a child received at the beginning of the study, the higher level of antisocial behavior at the end, according to the researchers.

Antisocial behavior was defined as cheating, lying, disobedience at school, breaking things deliberately, not feeling sorry after misbehaving or not getting along with teachers.

The study found that the higher levels of antisocial behavior were independent of other traits that could affect that behavior, such as a family's socioeconomic status and the amount of support parents give their children.

Parental warmth and support do tend to lessen the effects of spanking but do not cancel them, Straus said.

The results of this study are likely to be debated, because previous research has shown that 90 percent of U.S. parents spank their children. A majority of pediatricians and psychologists also do not discourage occasional corporal punishment.

In addition, corporal punishment in the classroom is still legal in 23 states.

Many parents spank only as a last resort and say they feel horrible about it afterward. Some would rather use other forms of discipline, if only they would work. Parenting classes offer advice about alternatives, because occasional swats can sometimes lead to harsher hitting.

Psychologist Irwin Hyman, author of the book "The Case Against Spanking," agrees with Straus' study.

"There is never a reason to spank a child, period," Hyman said. "There's no other place in society where someone can ... smack another person. So why should we be able to do this to children?"

But Ted and Andrea Fouriezo, who have four children under the age of 6, defend spanking as a necessary means of setting and enforcing limits with their kids.

"We feel that the parents have to be the parents," Andrea Fouriezo said. "You can't let the children run circles around you, which they will. Kids want to push their limits."

"There (are) also times where they're trying to hurt themselves and we just have to stop them, especially when they were (at) the toddler stage -- touching hot plates or trying to get themselves up on the stove," said Ted Fouriezo.

Correspondent Pat Etheridge and Reuters contributed to this report".

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[bigpowerfulpeople]

if you need to hit your kids, make sure you let someone much bigger than you hit you first then you will know what it's like.

[rkzenrage]

@bigpowerfulpeople Exactly, perhaps we should start that for traffic tickets and littering... NOT!

[rkzenrage]

@1tymthing I do know how to properly... don't, ever.

[rkzenrage]

@schneke1 I think 99.999% of most teachers are awesome, it is the system and the union the SUCKS and makes it impossible to demand accountability to those who do harm. BTW, I was a teacher.

[ladyEulaelie]

@rkzenrage

...& unless you're paying the doctor bill to cut my foot out of my kids butt you can focus your conscientiousness in a place worth it. It's against my conscience not to spank a kid deserving of it. I'm not going to volley back & forth w/ someone who will never have to pay my kid's bail or be up at night burdened w/ the pain of a defiant child who may be on their way to a dirt nap, or doing unspeakable things against ppl like you. Thanks, but save it.

[ladyEulaelie]

@rkzenrage

I'd be damned if my child crossed the line in disrespecting me, the way you see kids doing today, and walk away without dragging my foot out of their ass. Best believe. If I get a report that my child is being beyond out of control at school, cursing, hitting, disrespecting authority in any way, or bullying other kids, I'm going to bully their butt with a belt. Water can quench your thirst or it can drown you, in other words, there is a proper way to spank kids.

[ladyEulaelie]

@rkzenrage It WAS done to me (thank God) and NO, it was not assault.

[rkzenrage]

@ladyEulaelie So, if someone does it to you it's not assault right?

[rkzenrage]

@RedSkullthagreat Sure, for self defense.

[rkzenrage]

@rkzenrage Well put.

[rkzenrage]

@ladyEulaelie There is NOTHING conscientious about hitting.

[rkzenrage]

@GrimmReeferX My point is that our intellect should bring us past "nature".

[rkzenrage]

@rkzenrage

Matt5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.