Juniper's Dirty Secret

During a training class at Juniper in Silicon Valley I noticed something . . . bad. Choose your corporate co-inhabitants wisely is the only advice I can offer :).

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[Karpadium]

I am a CCIE and worked for Cisco and then IBM for years each respectively. Four years ago I had to work on Junos and came to understand the concept of reliable operating system. Anyone is kidding when they think IOS can even come close to JunOS. I work for Juniper now. And oh yeah this person is pretty retarded to say it is a big deal that Juniper has Cisco in their labs. Interoperability needs all different kind of hardware.

[jgaynor]

It's amazing that this requires explanation in the video, the description and the comments (roughly 1x/month), but it's not an interop lab - it's another tenant in the building that just happens to share a colo window in an unfortunately prominent area.

[fezlum]

Cisco laptops use Juniper's Odyssey Wireless Client software.

[jgaynor]

> Cisco laptops use Juniper's Odyssey Wireless Client software.

As well they should - meetinghouse/aegis is terrible and UAC is awesome.

[timg455]

Thats like when Microsoft used to run their hotmail servers off of freeBSD.

[jgaynor]

HA! I remember that. I feel old :).

[dLimboStick]

All companies use competitors equipment for such things as interoperabilty testing. You have to know how your equipment works with the competitors as well as how the competitors works with other vendors, etc...

If you go to a company that only has their own equipment in their labs, you can bet they'll be out of business real quick.

[deweys]

What the hell is with all the Cisco hate in here?

[Itadakiimasu]

I can't relate to this computer stuff sorry :(

[HorusKing]

I have worked with both cisco & juniper in the past and I can tell juniper is a much more superior platform than cisco imo but it all depends on how the company is laying out there network what there goals are and what type core network they want to have.

[kartoffelbaer1]

cisco suxx! :-)

[securezone]

Yeah, I know for sure that Cisco already has reverse engineering labs that are publicly not announced. Cisco basically looks at how Juniper and other vendors are doing their shit too.

[algiri666]

Cisco dosn't follow RFCs tightly ...they re-wrote OSPF for there routers...So interop testing is valid

[cbsnow31]

You have to use Cisco gear to test because Cisco doesnt follow the RFC on hardly anything. I quit being a Cisco fan two years ago when I got my hands on the SSG firewalls. Now I deploy nothing but SRX, SSG, and EX products. Cisco fan boys are scared of JunOS. As a 2xCCIE, you need to come over and take a look. Juniper rapes Cisco.....end of story!

[cbsnow31]

You have to use Cisco gear to test because Cisco doesnt follow the RFC on hardly anything. I quit being a Cisco fan two years ago when I got my hands on the SSG firewalls. Now I deploy nothing but SRX, SSG, and EX products. Cisco fan boys are scared of JunOS. As a 2xCCIE, you need to come over and take a look. Juniper rapes Cisco.....end of story!

[darkangelcloud7]

i think world use 98% Cisco. most craps are cisco proprietary so juniper don't stand a chance