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Commentary on White House Press Secretary and former Fox News commentator Tony Snow's press conference exchange with Helen Thomas concerning the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. More audio and video at http://thegayexpat.com

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  • 1. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/­article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/07/21/­MNG2QK396D1.DTL&hw=kalman&sn=0­01&sc=1000

    2. Kinda like saying it was the fault of the urban poor in New Orleans that they got stranded because they didn'thave cars?

    I stand by my position. There are better ways to do this, but people tend to get a little less creative when they have guns.

  • P.S. That's it. You've got enough kilometerage out of me. I suggest reading at length instead of debating in a place that's limited to 500 characters at a time.

  • No, it was their fault they stayed because they didn't have any brains. But, truthfully, it was everyone's fault. From the top all the way to the bottom. AMTRAK offered free trains out, Nagin declined. Red Cross offered food/water/aid to the Superdome, the Governer declined. Nagin didn't issue a mandatory evac until two days after the storm hit. And 1000's of people remained in a city below sea level in the path of a CAT 3-5 storm. EVERYBODY THINK FOR A CHANGE.

  • You're too married to ideology to deliver your "facts" in a mature, honest, human manner. Go away. Get a blog.

  • The U.S. media is doing a great job showing the fighting from the Hezbollah side. They portray Israel as the agressors. And my facts were all Straw Men? You are either a liar or retarded. Lebanon is not a theocracy, but Hezbollah operates inside Lebanon and do as they please. So Israel should just let the rockets come in and do nothing?

  • Foreign Office minister, Kim Howells said: 'The destruction of the infrastructure, the death of so many children and so many people: these have not been surgical strikes. If they are chasing Hizbollah, then go for Hizbollah. You don't go for the entire Lebanese nation.' The minister added: 'I very much hope that the Americans understand what's happening to Lebanon.'

    http://observer.guardian.co.uk­/world/story/0,,1826969,00.htm­l

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  • Not the entire Lebanese nation. Just the whole of its south. Devastated. For 2 Israeli sodiers taken hostage. True, they do hide weapons in civilian areas. But I'm appealing to your reason here. Compare the damage Hezbollah does to Israel to the devastation in the south of Lebanon. It's beyond comparison. Like trying to compare a pebble to a planet.

  • Thank you for trying to provide the view of the other side without getting all emotionally crazy like some others. In the interests of being fair and balanced, thanks, cause there seems to be mainly anti-Israeli views on this page (myself included).

  • I agree. US media (Fox especially; can't say they're just 1 network, majority of Americans watch just Fox for their news) depict pro-Lebanese/pro-Palestinian views (basically anti-Israeli views) as radical. Cindy Sheehan case is an example. Ignore her throwing away her credibility by associating herself with Hugo Chavez. Look at her message. Much of the media went against her. And after Katrina, the Bush admin deserves censure from the US public.

  • Why are there LOADS more pictures of Lebanese getting injured than Israelis? CAUSE THERE ARE LOADS MORE LEBANESE GETTING KILLED/INJURED! Hezbollah captured 2 Israeli soldiers. Israel bombed the whole of southern Lebanon to hell. Not disproportionate? Look at the Israeli military and civilian casualties and compare the numbers to Lebanon's. Hezbollah may practise terror but Israel's practicing systematic, state-endorsed opression. And the US keeps supporting them.

  • Let's also completely forget to mention that Lebanese CIVILIANS had nothing to do with this war, yet you sit here and try to run your ill-fact-mouth to justify over 1,000 of their deaths - and only really talk about how less than 50 Israeli civilians were killed by Hezbollah.

  • Making up something I didn't say is a pretty easy way to win. Yes Hezbollah shot rockets into Israel, but I find it hilarious that you would compare the weapons of Hezbollah to the precision-guided weapons from Israel.

    Apparently you're too ignorant to just look things up yourself, so here you go - straight from Wikipedia: Israel: 44 dead & 1,489 wounded | Lebanon: 1,187 dead

    3,600 wounded.

  • Hezbollah didn't kill any Israeli citizens? None? You should check the news, pal. You are a LIAR. You're busted, you piece of shit. I win.

  • Let's not forget that Lebanon is a Democracy as well.

  • If another country's tanks rolled into my town, you're damn right I'd fight them - and morons like you would call me a terrorist - for fighting another military. Do you get your 'facts' from FOX? Because most of what you said is straight from an Oreilly episode. If you are backed in a corner just call the other side "terrorist sympathizer" and somehow you feel it proves a point.

  • So if you kill 900% more civilians, than the terrorists, what does that make you? The thousands of Americans stranded in Lebanon were faking their fear? Perhaps you should join humanity again and leave your spin to someone that will believe it. Let's not forget that Hezbollah killed SOLDIERS, and kidnapped 3. They did not kill civilians and kidnap 3.

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