Mark Driscoll on Using Words to Confront False Teachers
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Who gives a rip what church fathers say? Go back to scripture, people. For any one thing a church father says, there's almost always another church father to contradict him.
Mark is one of the few teachers left who has rock solid biblical teaching. At least foundationally. It's not grounded in tradition, culture, or opinion. It's grounded in scripture. If you're church isn't grounded like that, beware.
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Does anybody else find it ironic that a guy who starts his own church and is ultimately accountable to nobody has the audacity to write books and lecture others on what Chritians should believe?
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Is belief in substitutionary atonement a boundary marker of orthodoxy? Perhaps. Is penal substitutionary atonement a boundary marker of orthodoxy? Emphatically no!!! The early fathers know absolutely nothing of the kind of atonement theory that Driscoll subscribes to. the narrow penal substitutionary theory that seeks to downplay and subvert the Fathers understanding of ransom and Christus Victor. the Eastern Orthodox know nothing about penal substitution, they do know a lot of the Fathers.
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@Rolo555 how is he faslse?
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We *should* shitcan the concept of heresy. Churches have been historically shitty at biblical exegesis anyway; the church "fathers" hellenized the Jewish apostles from the very beginning. Christian debates over doctrines look completely silly when placed within a Jewish framework.
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A False teacher talking about other false teachers. Funny isnt it?
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are you guys really doing this right now? all I'm going to add is that Jesus was Black and White, stop trying to add grey areas and think it is fine to reinterpret what lust is, because you're only lying to yourself.
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Did you hear about Chrislam that is the latest false teaching. 150 churches preach from the quran last month
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@gallegs7 driscoll said that... so you say that is ok? does the Bible say that?
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@NobodySpecial85 the bible talks about sex! Jesus talks about sex! the bible says it is a sin to lust! but says nothing about masturbation! Mark Driscoll said it is ok to masturbate within a marriage and as long as your spouse is ok with it! and that you are only thinking of your spouse! Christians need to talk about sex more because so many are lead the wrong way! Mark is by no means perfect but he only teaches what Jesus teaches!
gallegs7 1 year ago 5
@gallegs7 It talks about bad examples of sexual perversions committed by various people. It talks about avoiding fornication. It talks about not witholding from one another within marriage commitment. The bible DOES address masturbation because fornication is the setting up of a sexual idol in one's heart which is what one does in masturbation. It's deliberately DECEIVING The physiology to make it think sexual intercourse is happening. I don't get my theology from perverts.
sounddoctorin 11 months ago 2