Clarifying "Pearls Before Swine" Promo

This is a clarification in response to several criticisms of a video I mirrored. The link to the original is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHwnySmk9vc

It contains news coverage of the death of Lydia Schatz interspersed with excerpts from videos of prominent Christian YouTubers responding to Shayra's video on the topic.

Some have called it dishonest quote mining. I remain unconvinced. It's a sensational editing job, but that's a stylistic choice, not outright deception. It hews to the line held by political ads or television commercials.

I strongly encourage anyone with questions about corporal punishment to talk to a professional counselor or pediatrician. Some good sites are

The AAP:
http://www.aap.org/
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;101/4/723

and

http://Parenting.org/

I also advocate for / support CHILD, Inc.
(Childrens' Healthcare Is a Legal Duty)
http://www.childrenshealthcare.org/
They provide legal advocacy for children in religious and other types of medical neglect.

If you suspect abuse, report it, please.

Citations:
1. Pediatrics. 2010 May;125(5):e1057-65.
"The current findings suggest that even minor forms of CP, such as spanking, increase risk for increased child aggressive behavior."

2. J Pediatr Health Care. 2010 Mar-Apr;24(2):103-7.
"Research has clearly demonstrated associations between corporal punishment of children and maladaptive behavior patterns such as aggression and delinquency."

3. Dev Psychopathol. 2011 Feb;23(1):253-66.
"Our main finding was that early corporal punishment was associated with increased levels of peer aggression..."

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[Kreadus005]

The biggest problem with me agreeing with the non-violence parental enforcement line( spanking = beating) is that I have to somehow admit that the one time I was spanked somehow damaged me psychologically.

I don't think it did. But I feel an unfairness about calling me out on confirmation bias and then assuming the opposite -- that I am somehow screwed up. That's rude. How am I to agree with that statement? My ego won't allow it.

[C0nc0rdance]

@Kreadus005

You are interestingly self-aware!

Spanking is a component cause, not a sufficient cause. A probabilistic effect, not a deterministic one. You were probably not exposed to the same environment in other ways as the kids who developed problems.

[ryoshi100]

.... ok, so you don't let there be a distinction between beating and spanking. Even though the word "beat" has a much different and more severe connotation than spank...

Remember you didn't do the same for the word "mutilate" in circumcision.

The "other people" mutilate their child's genitals, you just gave a small cut.

You always say that correlation does not imply causation, but here you seem to be doing it for spanking and behavior issues/agression etc.

[C0nc0rdance]

@ryoshi100

You'll notice that I generally use the term "corporal punishment", which is a neutral, objective term. It includes in it the activities of beating, hitting and spanking, which are all subjective terms used for emotional shading. There's no way to objectively differentiate between hitting and beating.

Calling circumcision "genital mutilation" is an emotional shading term like "beating". You can use it if you want, but it's mostly good for shock value.

[repinsdica]

@C0nc0rdance

Sola Scriptura does not equal biblical literalism, the abuse of Sola Scriptura does not equal protestantism, uneducated protestants do not equal Christendom by any stretch of the imagination and lastly Christendom the population does not Christianity the belief system. Words have meanings, stop misusing them. I don't care how old the Law of Agape(Mathew 22:37-40) is it's still the basis of all sound Christian doctrine and it's still relevant.

[johnrcoben]

"It is a loaded weapon of justification..." I like that.

[antonc81]

Good vid but you seem to have assumed at the end that all hitting is a result of a lack of self control, or the result of anger or emotionality/tiredness.

[BjornSeverinLarsen]

@passwordresetisbroke 3rd - Oh the report im talking about is the one i mentioned in my first comment.

[BjornSeverinLarsen]

@passwordresetisbroke 2nd part - This report covered the area of violence against children both by looking in general registers and in specifics. It should have been broad enough to find evidence against the assumption. This report doesn't tell us that corporeal punishment has negative effects but it tells us that violence has. To my best understanding then corporeal punishment is violence. Therefore it is not a leap of faith to say that corporeal punishment probably has negative consequenses.

[BjornSeverinLarsen]

@passwordresetisbroke On choosing datasets. The report chose a broad dataset which would cover violence against children. It would not just be towards coporeal punishment but also other kind of violence. If you don't choose a dataset which you think can answer your question - whether it be do corporeal punishment work or what are the consequenses of violence against children (the goal of the report). If you chose a dataset that you didn't think would answer your problem, then what? tbc

[aLmAnZio]

This is maybe one of your most important videos in a long time. Thank you

[CompleteRationality]

I can't believe I'm just now seeing this video, but I have something I want to say. I was looking at Jack's response and his comments. He is trying to get you to prove who has the correct interpretation when that isn't even the issue. The video was showing the cognitive dissonance that exists with bible interpretations and all of the justified behavior it encompasses. You proving what the correct interpretation is is irrelevant. Great video. Did you ever see the blogtv discussion I put up?

[Stevoukos]

c0nc0rdance let me ask you something: Do you wear glasses?Stupid question I know.. but for some reason I can't stop thinking about it!! :P