Matt Dillahunty - Greatest Rant Ever

"I don't want to live in a world where those with power impose their evil intent on the masses and not face any type of consequence. Without God people can easily escape human justice. I can't buy into that." - message from a woman to the Atheist Community of Austin, summarizing her reasons for being a Christian. http://www.atheist-community.org/boards/read_message.php?b=1&t=2001

This response from Matt Dillahunty is an excerpt from an episode of The Non Prophets Podcast - http://www.nonprophetsradio.com/nonprophets.xml

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[Blasthood]

"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." - Albert Einstein

[undeadhead]

@shieldsff Okay, so God is only responsible for causing the good stuff. The rest of it, he either sits back and says, "oh well," or he can't do anything about. Hmm, God doesn't sound all that powerful to me. Thanks for clearing that up.

[sepiasiren]

@undeadhead Booyah!

[ardendogma]

@sepiasiren Thank-you for your kind words. Much appreciated.

[sepiasiren]

@ardendogma well said and bravo

[LightningLion1585]

@acr08807 (in response to first half) not really, actually, because, for example, the plague against the Egyptian's livestock killed all of their livestock but none of the Jews' livestock. It's very similar. (second half) it wouldn't be "too much", but it would justify genocide (which is immoral, and also sin) similar to the Crusades, etc.

[acr08807]

@LightningLion1585 I suppose that's true, but it's a real pain in the ass (and we know from Exodus 33:23 that God does have an ass) to design a natural disaster that keeps all of the virgin girls intact but kills everyone else. Besides, why should God have had to do all of the heavy lifting for the Hebrews? If you're helping one group to displace another from some land, is it too much to ask the group you're helping to slaughter the natives on its own?

[LightningLion1585]

@acr08807 Hm. I don't think having to violate His own logic is very 'stylish'. I think some kind of natural disaster would have been more stylish :P

[acr08807]

@LightningLion1585 I suppose He could have, but it would have lacked style. After all, Exodus tells us that Pharaoh wanted to free the Hebrews after each plague, but each time God hardened Pharaoh's heart so God would be able to show His power by inflicting more plagues. Don't you think freedom and salvation are worth more when it's bought with the lives of slaughtered children?

[LightningLion1585]

@acr08807 So you're saying that an omnipotent god couldn't spawn Jesus without having his followers kill a whole group of people? (and thus, break a commandment that he himself gave them originally)

[acr08807]

@shieldsff First, of course the account is true--it's the BIBLE. Everything in the Bible is true. What CONTEXT am I missing? If God hadn't had the Midianites slain and the virgins taken as slaves, including taking a few slavegirls Himself, then the Israelites would never have settled in Israel and God never would have been able to sacrifice Jesus for the sins of mankind, so we'd all have to go to Hell. What is the slaughter of a few Midianite children against billions of souls?