Proofs for God Destroyed by a Philosophical Atheist

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A philosophical examination of various proofs for the existence of God - by Stefan Molyneux, Host of Freedomain Radio, the most popular philosophy podcast on the web - http://www.freedomainradio.com

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[JohananRaatz]

It looks like Stefan Molyneux has never heard of Digital Physics, Wheeler's "It from bit," or Quantum Information Theory, because according to his definition of "existence," existence doesn't actually exist!

There is no spoon.

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[OgadaNosaFasu]

@JohananRaatz I know, and as a libertarian I find this segment an embarrasing piece to freedomain radio. If he follows the implications of his own naturalist "philosophy," then he must deny his own existence, the existence of other minds, and every empircal belief he holds because his subjective conscious experience of the external world could never be empirically verified by anyone.

[RIVirtuoso]

Forgot to mention,

b) Our reality is a paradox...is the paradox that says we exist but don't exist.

c) Allows us to exist, but also forces us to accept the existence of something out side of our reality, that can reasonably answer how our reality has come into existence without falling into the same trap as our reality.

The existence non existence paradox is the poorer belief to uphold of the two.

When we cannot rationally understand a question...You can figure out the rest

[RIVirtuoso]

I am not saying you need to believe in God, but to say you can possibly disprove God is well not true.

[RIVirtuoso]

If you accept that a separate reality exists in which the laws we know are no longer viable, the same logic must be applied to this reality.  Until we can find a reality whose laws bend to answer the question without a paradox. However to say something exists outside of our reality is also a paradox. In which case the same thing about God can be said. Either

a) We do not exist

b) Our reality is a paradox

c) There is another reality that exists, which is a paradox.

Pick your poison.

[RIVirtuoso]

This is true because if it followed the same laws as our reality, then the same logical steps will be employed until. A reality which does not obey the same laws as our reality is discovered. Or a paradox such as the infinite time paradox occurs. If you are willing to accept the infinite time paradox, you can not disprove God from contradictions because they are in themselves paradoxes.

[RIVirtuoso]

Something you don't understand is that our reality being the only reality is impossible unless we either do not exist. Or reality has been in existence for an infinite period of time. In which case we do not exist. Because in OUR reality things only exist in time. You do not have to believe in God, however you have to be willing to accept we are a paradox or there is another form of reality that does not follow them same laws of our Reality.

[MrTruthUnleashed]

@JohananRaatz So you're not real? You have to exist in order to say and prove that existence does not exist. Self-detonating argument.