Free Will Part 1 of 2

Examining whether free will is an illusion or reality with a discussion on determinism, hard determinism, libertarianism, hard incompatibilism, compatibilism, classical science view of determinism vs modern science, experimiental evidence on determinism, and the roll of randomness in choice and will

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Education

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• free will
• philosophy
• science
• physics
• determinism
• libertarianism

[trishtashha]

free will and freedom of thought is a god given right .we were born that way and its been taken away by governments dictators and psycological experiments

[taijimasster]

free will is passive and deterministic is domonate therefor determinstics is imposed on free will then it willl be over rule, unless the indivual determines it's own outcome, without emotional or logical belief, but outside interferance then it becomes deterministic.

[dartplayer170]

I'll try to engage more special effects next time

[unseenstrings]

Ask a Christian why Christians held the Inquisition and tortured so many people to death, and you will get the reply, "Well, you see, those Christians (that held the Inquisition) were not True Christians." Ask MCTMD1 why a particular person or people committed similar atrocious acts, and you will likely get the reply, "Well, you see, that person (or those people) had the magic power of logic but freely choose to be selectively illogical." Whew! Please count me out of this quagmire of bull crap.

[unseenstrings]

(2) and use pure (unaffected by anything) logic, MCTMD1 insist such isn't so. He insinuates that so called "logic" operates within the realm of magic, completely disconnected from the individuals previous mental development and current mental state. When WhiteHairedElder points out such phenomenon as Nazi Germany, MCTMD1 said, "Thinking that you are logical doesn't make it so....we have been evolutionarily programmed to be selectively irrational at times." LOL Then "logic" is a religious belief.

[unseenstrings]

I find it interesting that in the discussion between MCTMD1 and WhiteHairedEdler, MCTMD1 apparently likes to have his cake and eat it too. He argues against free will but then turns around and says, "suddenly the magic became logic". When WhiteHairedElder points that the brain is too interconnected, getting feedback and giving feedback from the different sections, and language is too saturated with preconceived notions and emotion in order for the human to disconnect from these factors (GoTo 2)

[MCTMD1]

Peace.

[MCTMD1]

Psychology involves the scientific method, and, again, even though chalk full of irrationality and psycho-babble(Freud), is always open to criticism, testing, discussion, debate, etc. Not so with religion.

[MCTMD1]

Not a liar, just willfully ignorant. I understand Christianity well, and have done much research on many religions. Was raised Catholic. Never took it seriously, when my brother, at about 8 years old, looked at me and said, in church, you aren't going to kneel? Against God's will? Ha, that's a joke, a very sick one. Antiquated philosophy. Ancient. I'm sure what your brother is doing is great, for people who can't or do not wish to think for themselves. I am seriously glad you have realized...

[MCTMD1]

"One Sunday Service" should warrant the same respect as an Hannuka or little baby Jesus Christmas card. Faith, by definition, is belief in the absence of evidence. Willful ignorance. Witness testimony is not evidence. Personal experience is subjective. Name a religion that is not dogmatic.

"Dogma is the established belief or doctrine held by a religion, ideology or any kind of organization: it is authoritative and not to be disputed, doubted or diverged from."