Benefits of Capitalism - Health Care Part 1(b)

This is the second part of my original post on the benefits of capitalism in the area of health care.

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[nazg55]

it's quite an intresting book, long though

[johnebii]

i just bought it last week. haven't got to reading it yet. about 10 books in front of it.

[nazg55]

Have you ever read atlas shrugged? If not you shoudlr ead it, or at least look it up.(I have a feeling you would enjoy it, it is about the triumph of individual human spirit.)

[johnebii]

sorry for the bad typing

[johnebii]

i didn't say work and go to high school even though there are plenty that have done that. i said when you are 18 finish high school and strike out on your own. i believe in the triumph of the human spirit, that if you want something bad enough, nothing can stop you. it is very difficult but somewhere inside you you have to make that decision that either you are going to let circumstances determine the course of your life our you are going to make you own way. that choice lies within all of us.

[nazg55]

if everything was as easy as that, then poverty probably would not exist, you assume people in poverty are just lazy theyre not, when you come from a broken home having no family to fall back on, its quite hard to work at mcdonalds to earn a lving + go to highschool.

[johnebii]

98% of people that finish high school, have a job and do not have a child out of wedlock are above the poverty line. those three things are not that hard to do. those stats include people working as janitors, fast food, whatever. just a job and not having a child out of wedlock like 85% of the people are above poverty. that is a pretty good success rate that doesn't depend on society or on where you were born or the color of your skin. that only depends on having a little ambition

[johnebii]

a black teenager born into the slums can leave home, get a job at mcdonalds, stay with two or three friends who are doing the same thing and immediately be above the poverty line. it won't be beautiful, but he can work his way up just like my family did. he has no less opportunity b/c of where he was born. when he turns 18 or before he can make a choice to either stay in that sit. or leave and make something of himself. interesting stat:

[johnebii]

there are millions of rags to riches stories to choose from. i note three well know ones. in this country any one that wants to make something of themself still can. my parents were middle class, their parents were poor. through hard work they lifted themselves up and taught their kids to do the same and they taught it to us and we will probably be better off in the end than our parents were but...

[nazg55]

you are making the assumption that everyone is as talented and yes "as lucky" as them. But not everyone has the ability to accomplish this you were fortunate to be born white, and im gonna assume not in total debt and poverty.(havin 3 exmaples of rags to riches stories does not justify your point).