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BTW, as to money-grubbing...I wasn't aware that Rob Bell gave his books and DVDs away. Now, you're gonna say he donates a lot..ok, so, you know what every pastor does with their money? Yes, there are abuses...it doesn't void God's word. God works inspite of wingnuts...Jacob, Moses, David, Solomon...The OT is full of leaders making huge errors, and God moves anyway because He's sovereign. The early church wasn't universalist, they were all about Jesus...not the same thing.
They were universalist, how can you wildly claim something you obviously have no knowledge about. I take theology at my college, and it's quite painful to see you make all these wild defenses. What are you defending? are you defending Jesus? Jehova? or the church? Even if universalism is a heresy(which is not) believing in hell and eternal tortures never gave salvation. In fact, the concept shows more love, in terms making the christian more loving and generous.
"wild defenses"??? Yeah, it's a shame that the Bible is clear on all of this. That's wild.
OK. You obviously worship Rob Bell, and I'm not going to convince you otherwise. I pray that God reveals Himself to you, and you will actually stand for the true Gospel...see Galatians, Ephesians, 1Peter, and James. Put down Velvet Elvis, and pick up a Bible. Peace. I'm done with you.
The books were written by men under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit(2 Tim. 3:16...um, that's God, dude. Yes, the grek/Hebrew and Aramaic are the best sources...keep trying. You'll get there.
and? you and I are in the inspiration of the holy spirit, but still we don't agree. As did a a lot authors disagreed on certain things. They try their best to give their versions, all we can do is take what we can, and build a relationship, build a story of our own. They've been kind enough to spread the word of God, but does that mean they know 100%? They are men, don't put their words on a pedestal. You clearly put scripture before Christ.
shouted heresy! Just as foolish pharisees' did when Jesus taught in the synagogues. They then began using translations of the bible from Latin. Latin? The language of Pagans? then Hell became a doctrine. Hell? a word of northern english origin(but all words in the bible must be translated from hebrew or greek), and belief of norse pagans? Looks alot like the roman hierarchy were trying to make their religion a little pagan friendly for some of their friends. The false teachers have BEEN here.
There have been false teachers since Biblical times. OK, you seem to only want to be technical when it suits you. Jesus mentions gahenna((and many other "allegories" for hell-our word. I wasn't aware of any scripture written by norsemen. The second half of your post is a lot off. Reply with coherency, please. I'm not Catholic.
The proper word is "Sheol" in the old testament. And whether or not you are catholic, they established most of the doctrines that you obviously still live by. When non-denominational christianity branched out, it still didn't have it's own ideals. In the old testament, "Sheol" was the destination to both the unrighteous and righteous. And when Moses gave the Mosaic Law, he never stressed that the punishment was HELL, or even Sheol. Even in genesis, Hell is absent.
Oh, so there's no hell...separation from God? Well, that's fabulous...I'll just love my family and friends, and, if you need me I'll be at the casino and the strip club, having lots to drink, and lots of sex with women AND men. That's great! I don't have to worry about hell, and Jesus loves me so that means I can do whatever I want, and He'll accept me. That is way better than living a life of obedience(I can ignore John 14:15, 15:13) and love for Jesus. Thanks.
& yes it's been centuries. Centuries of misinterpretation, leading to so many denominations, leading to burning people at the stake, leading to calling everything heresy. I suggest you read a real translation from a greek/hebrew bible. Early orthodox christians (the christians closest to Jesus' time) practiced "universalism" but they didn't call it anything because to them that was just what Jesus taught. UNTIL the church said it was too dangerous to think this way, and...
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OK. You obviously worship Rob Bell, and I'm not going to convince you otherwise. I pray that God reveals Himself to you, and you will actually stand for the true Gospel...see Galatians, Ephesians, 1Peter, and James. Put down Velvet Elvis, and pick up a Bible. Peace. I'm done with you.