There's a video of Henry Wang from the 90's where he has Canada's top RCMP martial artist put him in a submission hold and henry throws the cop with no evidence of serious effort. I know a few people who have, including my brother who is definitely unable to fully explain henry's abilities through contact, but at least when my brother was going to see him he really only ever demonstrated no touch on students he had trained for long periods of time. Take that as you will.
Hey sport, you asked me to put my money where my mouth is. That is what you've got. Do not offer a challenge if you do not want a reply. I have spoken with another student of Henry Wang who seems to have enough knowledge and training to understand what is being expressed. I have no doubt Mr. Wang has very good skills but... the no touch is BULLSHIT! Enough said, if you buy into it, so be it. No need to become defensive or potty mouthed. Yes I think SOME of his students are stupid enough.
@karlgrose Your arrogance shows little insight and respect. I am sorry someone who supposedly trained under such great names has turned out like you. Where is your humility ? I was not implying for you to challenge Mr Wang and am not at all impressed with your $ 5000 bet. Do you really think his students are so stupid as to follow a fraud ? Why don't you invest your $ 5000 and go see for yourself ? Maybe you'll change your mind and it would help you to become a true martial artist.
@karlgrose I didn't jump in. I think you might have saw one of my comments from 2 years ago. :) Master Wang is really skilled at what he does and is worth visiting (I think). Check out my YouTube for some videos and I have more information on my website (just google Black Horse Tai Chi and it will come up). It has my martial experience on there. I'm 31, live in Taiwan for 5 years, got fluent in Mandarin, practiced BJJ, have been doing kung for 15+ years... Hit me up anytime! (Casey)
@blackhorsetaichi OKay it was krautbeer100 who asked me to put my money where my mouth is and then you apparently jumped in to the dialog stream. I have no problem with that but if you are going to question my motives you should at least look at the "stream" to have an understanding of what is being said and why. I'm in Crestone CO, (4hrs. So. of Denver), all of my teachers are from the Northeast and it would be great to claim one from the Northwest. Lets talk some more, I do enjoy learning
@blackhorsetaichi No need to be snide, i am a 30 year practitioner in the Chinese Arts have never entered a tournament and I have little use for the UFC. It was either you or krautbeer who asked me to put my money where my mouth is and that is what I offered, nothing more. Perhaps I don't know what is "at play here" and would appreciate some enlightenment because to the casual observer the videos demonstrating the "power or ability" to manipulate people from a distance degrades this art.
@karlgrose I don't think you understand what is at play. There's not some "mystical" energy being emitted from him that's moving people. I can walk up to him and touch him, there's no need for you to fly all the way out there to prove that. What is it that bothers you so much about the videos? Do you think he's making some claim that this is something you can use in the UFC or something?
@karlgrose Actually... I don't "believe" in his "powers." His "no touch" is just something he thinks is "interesting." I'm not able to do it and I don't believe he could produce the same results in a setting like... the UFC. That said, I haven't met anyone with his same ability for... lets call it "center manipulation" when touching. I've gotten decent at that and would gladly come to you (or have you come to me) to demonstrate it. There are videos on my channel and you can request more. :)
@blackhorsetaichi Okay I respect that you believe in your master's powers which is what allows him to preform these feats of magic and deception, ( yes they are). I don't have the time or inclination to debate the authenticity of his power with any disciples unless you poscess the same power. I am ready to put up 5,000.00 plus my round trip expenses if you do the same to stop by and allow "master Wang" to demonstrate his power by not allowing me to touch him using only his internal power.
There's a video of Henry Wang from the 90's where he has Canada's top RCMP martial artist put him in a submission hold and henry throws the cop with no evidence of serious effort. I know a few people who have, including my brother who is definitely unable to fully explain henry's abilities through contact, but at least when my brother was going to see him he really only ever demonstrated no touch on students he had trained for long periods of time. Take that as you will.
bastardformula 6 months ago
Hey sport, you asked me to put my money where my mouth is. That is what you've got. Do not offer a challenge if you do not want a reply. I have spoken with another student of Henry Wang who seems to have enough knowledge and training to understand what is being expressed. I have no doubt Mr. Wang has very good skills but... the no touch is BULLSHIT! Enough said, if you buy into it, so be it. No need to become defensive or potty mouthed. Yes I think SOME of his students are stupid enough.
karlgrose 7 months ago
@karlgrose Your arrogance shows little insight and respect. I am sorry someone who supposedly trained under such great names has turned out like you. Where is your humility ? I was not implying for you to challenge Mr Wang and am not at all impressed with your $ 5000 bet. Do you really think his students are so stupid as to follow a fraud ? Why don't you invest your $ 5000 and go see for yourself ? Maybe you'll change your mind and it would help you to become a true martial artist.
krautbeer100 7 months ago
@karlgrose I didn't jump in. I think you might have saw one of my comments from 2 years ago. :) Master Wang is really skilled at what he does and is worth visiting (I think). Check out my YouTube for some videos and I have more information on my website (just google Black Horse Tai Chi and it will come up). It has my martial experience on there. I'm 31, live in Taiwan for 5 years, got fluent in Mandarin, practiced BJJ, have been doing kung for 15+ years... Hit me up anytime! (Casey)
blackhorsetaichi 7 months ago
@blackhorsetaichi OKay it was krautbeer100 who asked me to put my money where my mouth is and then you apparently jumped in to the dialog stream. I have no problem with that but if you are going to question my motives you should at least look at the "stream" to have an understanding of what is being said and why. I'm in Crestone CO, (4hrs. So. of Denver), all of my teachers are from the Northeast and it would be great to claim one from the Northwest. Lets talk some more, I do enjoy learning
karlgrose 7 months ago
@blackhorsetaichi No need to be snide, i am a 30 year practitioner in the Chinese Arts have never entered a tournament and I have little use for the UFC. It was either you or krautbeer who asked me to put my money where my mouth is and that is what I offered, nothing more. Perhaps I don't know what is "at play here" and would appreciate some enlightenment because to the casual observer the videos demonstrating the "power or ability" to manipulate people from a distance degrades this art.
karlgrose 7 months ago
@karlgrose I don't think you understand what is at play. There's not some "mystical" energy being emitted from him that's moving people. I can walk up to him and touch him, there's no need for you to fly all the way out there to prove that. What is it that bothers you so much about the videos? Do you think he's making some claim that this is something you can use in the UFC or something?
blackhorsetaichi 7 months ago
@karlgrose Actually... I don't "believe" in his "powers." His "no touch" is just something he thinks is "interesting." I'm not able to do it and I don't believe he could produce the same results in a setting like... the UFC. That said, I haven't met anyone with his same ability for... lets call it "center manipulation" when touching. I've gotten decent at that and would gladly come to you (or have you come to me) to demonstrate it. There are videos on my channel and you can request more. :)
blackhorsetaichi 7 months ago
@CT2507 Exactly!!
karlgrose 7 months ago
@blackhorsetaichi Okay I respect that you believe in your master's powers which is what allows him to preform these feats of magic and deception, ( yes they are). I don't have the time or inclination to debate the authenticity of his power with any disciples unless you poscess the same power. I am ready to put up 5,000.00 plus my round trip expenses if you do the same to stop by and allow "master Wang" to demonstrate his power by not allowing me to touch him using only his internal power.
karlgrose 7 months ago