@LordShandor strictly speaking it can't, but in the 150 years of history judo hs, the last decade saw a lot of changes which make 1860 seem faaar away :p
I practice a martial art that's barely in his 30's so 1860 are even more ancient ;)
@LordShandor i'm ok with your second and third affirmation but not the first: even if he removed technicks that he deemed to dangerous, Kano's judo originaly included a lot more than what is now taught in dojos, and is even further from what is shown at olympic games.
@netpolice151 well they are both still armbars but the one you are talking about makes it difficult and nearly impossible (if the guy performing the armbar is good) to whats called bridge out of it, because your food it wedged in pretty well behind there back (arm pit area works to i believe) then it is rediculously difficult to get out of the armbar - your reply to mine caught me off gaurd lol that last comment of mine was from forever ago, lots of awesome judo sense then
the way points are awarded makes your last statement pointless, even if what you said has some truth. Bjj evolved from ancient judo, which had less emphasis on throws and more ground than now. Now judo is 95% throws 5% ground. Where Bjj focuses on submissions and taking a advantage through some positions (back, mount etc) a throw give points but does not award imediat victory.
dude go to a judo gym they teach the exact same shit. my gym does judo and bjj ive done both and now i only do judo considering half of the time in the judo training we do newaza randori (you do that the whole time in bj). i have my purple in bjj and my green in judo and almost all of the technique i learnt in judo was the same in bjj only difference was learing different guards and alot more deffensive ground work, judo if your not good enough to finish on the ground quickly u get stood up
@LordShandor strictly speaking it can't, but in the 150 years of history judo hs, the last decade saw a lot of changes which make 1860 seem faaar away :p
I practice a martial art that's barely in his 30's so 1860 are even more ancient ;)
regards ^^
laokon 1 month ago
@laokon Agreed, however my 1st point is that 1860 is hardly considered ancient.
LordShandor 1 month ago
@LordShandor i'm ok with your second and third affirmation but not the first: even if he removed technicks that he deemed to dangerous, Kano's judo originaly included a lot more than what is now taught in dojos, and is even further from what is shown at olympic games.
regards
laokon 1 month ago
@BroomeBlocker3 Agreed, high level Judo competitions usually look like two drunken cats falling down a flight of stairs.
LordShandor 1 month ago
@laokon There is no such thing as ancient Judo. Judo and Bjj derived from Samurai Jujutsu. Judo is a sport application of the techniques.
LordShandor 1 month ago
@netpolice151 well they are both still armbars but the one you are talking about makes it difficult and nearly impossible (if the guy performing the armbar is good) to whats called bridge out of it, because your food it wedged in pretty well behind there back (arm pit area works to i believe) then it is rediculously difficult to get out of the armbar - your reply to mine caught me off gaurd lol that last comment of mine was from forever ago, lots of awesome judo sense then
Winterburn02 1 year ago
my favorite technique from back mount
ryanWeap 1 year ago
@judoman98 testing
naistradamus 1 year ago
the way points are awarded makes your last statement pointless, even if what you said has some truth. Bjj evolved from ancient judo, which had less emphasis on throws and more ground than now. Now judo is 95% throws 5% ground. Where Bjj focuses on submissions and taking a advantage through some positions (back, mount etc) a throw give points but does not award imediat victory.
Kind regards
laokon 2 years ago
dude go to a judo gym they teach the exact same shit. my gym does judo and bjj ive done both and now i only do judo considering half of the time in the judo training we do newaza randori (you do that the whole time in bj). i have my purple in bjj and my green in judo and almost all of the technique i learnt in judo was the same in bjj only difference was learing different guards and alot more deffensive ground work, judo if your not good enough to finish on the ground quickly u get stood up
danjack17 2 years ago