The End of the Line - Collapsed State
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Want my views on gun control. Whatch "Bowling for Columbine". That film pretty much says it all. THe founding fathers had no idea that the right to bear arms would give criminals AK 47's. Thier intention was to preserve the sovriegnty of the states and keep the federal government from gaining too much power. In the event of a federal take over, the state militias could protect themselves. Not so some insane person could buy a gun and kill 21 people at McDonalds, Thanks NRA
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@croakerlips Thank you for sharing this with us. As an angler, this issue is of particular interest to me. However, I think the FULL-LENGTH documentary is quite credible (ex. how it has affected fishermen in other waters who have fished as long as you). I feel you have some good points, but I do not feel this is an issue and that taking some of the documentaries suggestions could only help and not harm anything. I feel your Churchill quote also applies to you, esp as a biased party. Sorry. ty.
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He talks about the fish been over fished, he keeps showing a guy walking with a single fish of his shoulders. If you all could see the Mega fishing ships that are in the ocean today. Can you imaging catching 1 million fish every 2 hours, 7 days a week, and stop just to refuel gas, and change crew members.
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collapsed fisheries, overfishing, unsustainable, bycatch, lol, look toward law governing Floridian fisherman in the USA, they are required to use nets with a 98 % bycatch rate, scientific studies prove this but the law remains in effect !!! Fisherman here in NC face similar aspects of biological law, wasteful, yet changes havn't been made !!! WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE THIS ???? Personal agenda wants us eliminated, they do not want a sustainable fishery, they just want us gone unjustly !!!! SELFISHNESS
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Herring fishing was shut down here in North Carolina due to pollution, not overfishing. Their original data stated overfishing, then they said well, we think pollution is a factor ! Funny, the herrings spawn in an evergrowing pollution filled river. Runoff is killing, not just overfishing !
And to scientific data, most is based on landings. A drop in landings is seen as population decline which is false. Fish have cycles, ups and downs in regards to populations.
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The scientists that people argue against are not biased. Why would they make something like this up. While fishermen are biased, of course they're going to disagree with the scientists, fishing is their livelihood. This is totally understandable. But fishermen should also be concerned about their near future when there's no fish left to catch. Scientists warned the Canadian govt. that the cod fishery was not sustainable, the govt. didn't listen and so now there are no cod on the east coast.
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Before one makes any judgements or gives any opinions about fisheries managment, one should spend at least five years on a working American commercial vessle. By then you might learn something about what we do and how we harvest our renewable resouce. Until then one is merely quoting others and using anecdotal evedence. Most people on land think the ocean ends at the horizon, still. Thats natural. It doesn't, and until one has put in the time on the ocean one should not presume to know anything
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attached estuaries. When the report became public we flippedout and called, wrote and demanded a new study. After a month NOAA admitted there were "procedural" errors that occured and the new estimation was in the mid 20000s. Thats a lot more than 900, and NOAA was going to recomed the Atl. Bottlenose for the threatened list so they could use it to halt some fisheries. Haven't heard any more about the scarcity of Bottlenose since then and the fishery has remained open. This is just one example.
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I'm not sying there is no overfishing, I argue the resource is renewable and if managed properly and harvested correctly, there should be no shortage of bluefins or blue crabs. They do die eventually so why shouldn't we eat some of them. What do you eat? 10 yrs ago the NMFS did a bottlenose dolphin study. THey flew a small plane frome Cape May N.J. to Key West and counted dolphin. They stated in a formal report,submitted to NOAA , that there were around 900 dolphin in the Western Atlantic and
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predation, water pH and a whole list of other factores way beyond our control. What was the original poulation of bluefins in the gulf? Do they stay in the Gulf? A well know sceintist insisted there were two distinct BF populations in the atlantic. ICAT made rule based on this misinfo 4 years. Then they tagged fish off N.C. and recovered them in the Med 2 years later. She was a PhD making recommedations to ICAT and was totally wrong. Biologist can estmate anything, that doesn't make it fact.
Idiot. If all of the fish die, the ecosystem colapses and we die, if you die on the other hand it's one less human ruining the planet. so which is more inportant? you or the fish?
0madmadame 2 years ago 7
i'd be quite happy to not eat fish for a year and letting them all mate :)
Mizzsta676 2 years ago 4