Chris Webb Parsons climbing Wheel of Life V16

Chris Webb climbing Wheel of life in the Hollow Mountain Cave of the Grampians, Australia. This is a V16 boulder put up by Koyamada Dai of japan. This boulder problem is 60 moves long and is more of a route than anything else. Dai Koyamada suggested a V16 or 5.15a rating for the link up.

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[guitarherodw]

I think V16 is a pretty legit grade for this. And as far as giving it a sport grade, there's not a single bolt, on the problem... It's not a route. It's a boulder problem. I hate how Fred Rouhlin'sg Akira is "9b" but, like i said, he there's not a single bolt on that line... so HOW can it even be considered a route? much less a 9b.

[coltleader]

Once again your hovering on a gray area here. The fly was graded as a route but it barely consisted of Ten moves and it only has 1 bolt on it (and has been bouldered). Deep water solo's are graded as routes and they contain no bolts.

[coltleader]

Just to clarify even further all this grading confusion, Dai did give it a route grading as well (It's in the video description). There will always be a gray area in which people will argue over how long a boulder can be before it becomes a route. Recently, I had the opportunity to try Lucid Dreaming (even though I boulder v5 max) and the crux pinch move defines the original grading concept of the single hardest move on the problem.

[Vevelshemor]

Ahh, the good old grading controversial. How about this... only people who can climb the route can rate it. Well that probably eliminates 99% of the people on here, including me.

[vomitedshit]

i'm surprised the music didn't push the guy into jumping to his death

[guyplanb]

I counted over 100 moves (including footwork but not including shaking out forearm pump). Chris is a machine (",?

[awesometastic187]

V16... I can only climb V4 so I dont get a say in its rating

[BeepimajeepBeep]

If it is a boulder... it gets a boulder grade.

[Don Kim]

I can't climb V16 but I "know" this much, the first V16 problems ever were just established 2 years ago with Lucid Dreaming and The Game. Since this video was posted 5 years ago, fair bet that this hasn't been graded at a V16. Either way it's one helluva a problem that I'd need at least 10 forms of mechanical pumps and pulleys to get me through lol

[theclimbingdotcom]

V16 that pushing it Great

[jasonheywardkillsit]

Well said! F the grade, who are we to judge? Climb is stout, yep a problem not a route. Come on people, did he just "free" a route? Could it be more obvious? Looking at you grey-minded people.Year removed for good measure.

[ninjaski]

the problem looks hard, but the tunes must make it harder by at least a grade!

[anesthetize1me]

If this is V16 (and I have no reason to believe it isn't), there will soon be people climbing V17, V18 and maybe even more. There will be a great and exciting future in the climbing world! :-)

[MIKE RATHKE]

when did u send?

[fqwatkins]

Also, Trad.