Glenn Gould Strauss

Richard Strauss
piano pieces, andante.
Pianoforte Glenn Gould.

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[sofronitzky]

Le jeune Strauss avait montré deux opus de pièces pour piano à son maître Hans von Bulow, et celui-ci avait conseillé à Strauss d'abandonner définitivement l'écriture pianistique. L'imbécile...

[iamalittlespy]

@vinciano I heard very little of them, even though I know Schoenberg's music fairly well. Which ones do you recommend ? I also like lieder by Mahler and Wolf. Another great song composer is Mussorgsky, even though his music is very different.

[vinciano]

@iamalittlespy Thanks for suggestion. Have you ever heard Schoenberg Lieder?

[iamalittlespy]

@vinciano Its a shame that you're not familiar with Schumman's lieder, because they are his some of his greatest works and are quite different from Schubert. First the piano part is usually a lot more complex, rich and virtuosic and the vague harmonies that you described just add tension, drama and emotion that makes his songs masterpiece. I can only suggest that you listen for yourself.

[iamalittlespy]

@vinciano I guess will have to agree to disagree. You are certainly informed and entitled to your opinion. Fantasy does owe something to Beethoven, but I would argue it owes more to Bach, with all the hidden counterpoint and Bachian figuration. I don't think its fair to compare Schumann to Brahms, since Brahms represented a later generation of composers. Brahms himself held Schumann's music in high regard and learned a lot from him.

[vinciano]

Papillons played by Richter is a show. I can not say the same of the famous Carnival, Op. 9 showing a perfectly dichotomous Schumann (Florestan and Eusebius), but leaves me rather indifferent in his vague and harmless melodic and harmonic miniaturism. Much better the miniatures of Chopin, in this sense. However I think the Fantasia for piano represent his piano composition more ambitious (and owes much of Beethoven)

[vinciano]

I heard some of Schumann's composition (but not his Lieder, which, however, I do not seem to differ from those of Schubert) for piano and symphonic music. The concert op. 54 is the composition for solo instrument, perhaps for antomasia of musical romanticism, but, although its being emblematic in his genre, certainly does not make me cry out to the masterpiece. Nothing comparable to the two piano concertos of Brahms, or the fourth by Beethoven, just to be clear.

[iamalittlespy]

@vinciano (continuted) First R.Schumann is one of the greatest lieder composers, matched only by Schubert. Have you not heard the song cycle Dichterliebe ? It is an extraordinary masterpiece. How about Piano Concerto that is one of the defining concertos of the Romantic Era or his piano cycles such as Kreisleriana, Humoresque Op.20, Fantasy Op.17, Symphonic Etudes, Piano Sonata's......the list goes on :-).

[iamalittlespy]

@vinciano Thanks for providing the quote. I know that Gould was one eccentric genius, even though I am surprised he would say that about R.Schumann. I respectfully yet strongly disagree with your and Gould's assessment. It took me a while to get into Schumann. His music can seem be unwieldy and somewhat annoying. Also the constant manic vs romantic duality in his music can be challenging. However when Schumann soars, he soars to great heights. As for masterpieces he has MANY.

[vinciano]

@iamalittlespy "I'm planning for next year a recording of sonatas for organ by Mendelssohn which will be a shock for everyone. I like infinitely Mendelssohn, a composer much greater than Schumann, for example, whose reputation is more established. Of all the composers, I think Schumann is one of the weakest" -

Tract from an interview with Bernard Asbell in 1962.

Imho Schumann is a great composer but i hardly find a masterpiece in his opus.