Re: The fake bombing at the ROM, Toronto, 28.11.07

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salem's loft supports thorarinn ingi jo because art makes us thinking people think and unthinking people angry



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Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• fake
• rom
• bomb
• hoax
• thorarinn
• ocad
• pemovision

[anadgnik]

Only a member of the fiscal upper-class,you'd call'em bourgeoisie, ever would think to DO something so violently asinine, so arrogant, and dare to hold tight to insolence in the face of trenchant reason.

Plus, in any context, or circle -- the idea was lame. I mean, it was damaging, but also: just childish and silly. The Grown-Ups just just just chuckle.

[mohip050]

the upper class is a tax bracket and the bourgeoisie is a group of people who share values, they're not the same thing. so for instance, the bourgeoisie are defined my materialism (check a dictionary) but the upper class are sometime driven by altruism.

as far as the 'insolence in the face of trenchant reason' part. it's very poetic, but i'm not sure what it means. maybe you'd care to explain yourself in prose?

p.s. that's nice, that you speak for all grown ups.

[feherman86]

Dear Mohip50; Are you nuts. There are five hospitals just south of the ROM that depend on open roads to save lives. What if an emergency vehicle needed to rush someone from north of Bloor to TGH or Sick Kids. This was done on public land that belongs to all of us. How dare you defend putting a realistic looking explosive device in a public place.

[feherman86]

Have you checked what is on this alleged human beings you tube account. His own self impotance is greater than any belief in common care for all. Artists do not degrade other people.

[mohip050]

well firstly, artists are pretty self important people. (I assume you meant to say self important). I am an artist and i know a ton of artists and they, myself included, have a pretty high estimation of the value of their work. you have to to be an artist just to keep going. in defense of my own self importance, it's better to be self important than it is to be self unimportant

as for artists not degrading other people, you clearly don't know very many artists.

[mohip050]

I'm not sure how this would differ from, say, the santa claus parade. an ambulance might be blocked by Santa's sleigh or a float from the gay pride parade just as easily.

remember, even planned events can get in the way of an ambulance.

having said that, are you sure you're not just using any excuse, no matter how unreasonable, to object to this work?

[Nickii1234]

I completely agree.

[feherman86]

Mohip050; Because Parades are publicly advertised in advance, I also have the opportunity to avoid an area like downtown during a parade.

[feherman86]

Think of the irony using the Gay Pride Parade as an example of city disruption.

The Gay Pride Parade is a celebration for all people to share, in the accomplishment of human rights equality.

The ROM Bomb is harm to all people for the selfish view and pleasure of one person.

Remember the bomber in one interview did state, he knew their would be disruption to the city but not to a great level.

[feherman86]

Mohip050; Don't even think that you can win this arguement my friend. EMS strategically plan for scheduled events.

I do not believe in the censorship of ideas or expression, I object to his deliberate act of putting fear into unwilling participants.

I bet you believe President George Bush is bringing freedom to the world too?!?

[feherman86]

As far as me knowing many artists is concerned, I have been making a living with cold rolled steel as a medium and form of expression for over 30 years.

Like I said earlier, artist do not degrade people...ideas yes but not the innocent.

[feherman86]

Mohip50; Can I tie a black man or a gay man to the back of a truck and call it "Bigotry in Motion". Of course not!! If my written word here brings out feelings of rage and anger than my goal as a writer has been reached. I can argue my writings are literature. Tolstoy believed that art was the passive communication of thought and feeling.

Only George W. Bush supporters agree with unprovoked violence against your fellow man.

[feherman86]

Perhaps I didn't explain myself well. I agree artists have a high level of self confidence and focus, this is not in dispute. My point is artists do not have more rights and privilege then any other human being.

Can I put a replica of a gun to your head and call your reaction "The Art of Fear".

If you had a surge of adrenaline that stopped your heart...well you forgive me for cutting your heart capicity in half for the rest of your life.