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How does "God is most glorified in us" apply to unbelievers

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Uploaded by on Nov 7, 2008

John Piper talks about how God gets glory for himself from every human being, believer or not.

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  • People do have a choice, and every single person chooses to reject God and go to hell. Without God's intervention, everyone makes the choice to reject God. With God's intervention however, he changes the hearts of some to want to know God, and those people get saved. When God determines who is going to hell, He does nothing. When God determines who is going to heaven, He intervenes to make them willing to come to Him. Without His intervention, not a single person would choose Christ.

  • hmm...Gods wrath is supposed to be glorified by punishing the sinners who want nothing to do with Him...

    according to Piper and Calvin. God has determined who is going to Heaven and hell.

    how is that just punishment? if the sinner has no choice where he is going? regardless of whether they want to turn from sin. the cant, and they are "justly punished"???

    makes no sense. why? because its crap

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