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The Rational Response Squad recently was asked to respond to claims that Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron could prove that god exists without invoking faith or the bible. Comfort and Cameron failed at this claim. This reel is the highlights as seen through the eyes of the RRS. The entire 1.5 hour debate is available at http://www.ABCNews.com
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The primary definition of Creation is, "The fact or state of having been created."
If Atheists claim that a Personal Creator / Sentient Entity did not create the Universe, then they are left with two options, 1) The Universe was its own Creator at a fixed point in time, or 2) The Universe is not a Creation but is an eternal thing without any quality of having been created.
Both propositions involve far too many logical fallacies to even begin to approach here.
Because a personal creator of the Universe isn't filled with logical fallacies? If everything must have a creator, who created God? You arrive at the exact same conclusion..
No, I'm not filling in gaps. God is not created. God is pure transcendental, idealic Creator. God is not created because it is God who does the creating.
You're just getting the cart before the horse.
When evolutionists make ridiculous claims that the universe was its own creator, not one of them asks who was the creator of the self-create universe. But add sentience and omnipotent power to that creative force and they have veritable cow.
Atheists make no claims, actually. An atheist LACKS belief in the supernatural. This is different from actively believing god does not exist. You're using a fallacy called "argument of/from the gaps". In other words, our being unsure about the origins of the universe hardly necessitates a supernatural answer.
Actually, you're wrong. You're just ignorant of the difference in Positive and Negative Atheism. Positive Atheism is the Positive Affirmation of a Universal Negative. It has been demonstrated time and time again to be filled with one logical fallacy after the next. Negative Atheism is almost synonymous with Agnosticism.
Not at all. Merely pointing out that Positive Atheists are few and far between, yet you speak of them as if they represent atheism as a whole. Also, agnosticism can just as easily denote a theist, as the term "a-gnos" has little to do with belief.
I won't spend much more time responding to this video since I can hardly stomach listening to these noisy, profane animals carry on as they do. However, I would just say that Positive Atheism still represents a sizable majority within the Atheistic community. Dr Antony Flew, before his death, explained to the Positive Aheist community in detail why he could no longer maintain Positive Atheism. Now though they have forgotten and found themselves a new champion in Dawkins. So they carry on and on.
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If Atheists claim that a Personal Creator / Sentient Entity did not create the Universe, then they are left with two options, 1) The Universe was its own Creator at a fixed point in time, or 2) The Universe is not a Creation but is an eternal thing without any quality of having been created.
Both propositions involve far too many logical fallacies to even begin to approach here.
Because a personal creator of the Universe isn't filled with logical fallacies? If everything must have a creator, who created God? You arrive at the exact same conclusion..
You're just filling in gaps.
You're just getting the cart before the horse.
When evolutionists make ridiculous claims that the universe was its own creator, not one of them asks who was the creator of the self-create universe. But add sentience and omnipotent power to that creative force and they have veritable cow.