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-to not pay their taxes or to take sex seriously. And most people think they can solve this by taking responsibility for the actions of others. Obama thinks he can solve this by allowing abortion and gay marriage, when it only increases the problem. When will people ever get this?
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I mean no offense to anyone and please correct me if I am offensive to anyone.
But I think pro-abortionists, pro gay-marriage people and a majority of democrats aren't seeing the big picture. They wonder why our economy is bad but they're not opening up their eyes. What they don't see is that these things are making people lazier, and they're not making people take responsibility for their actions. When people believe these things are okay (supported by Obama) then people have an excuse-
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Yes but freakanomics also points to several other factors in the decrease of crime such as an increase in the number of police, changes in drug markets, and an increased reliance on prisons
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@imrational 6. I was just giving the U.S. statistics so everyone understood what the result would be if Roe v Wade was overturned. And I did reference when I said the CDC reported it the YEAR before Roe v Wade.
7. Haha true, but your argument that "people will do it anyways" doesn't hold up either considering that people still break just about every law in the world but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have these laws. And I'm glad we could discuss without going crazy, which people do so often.
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5. "At one time, women had a hard time finding a doctor, or anyone else, to have an abortion." In 1960, a decade before Roe v Wade, Dr. Mary Calderon (the pro-legal abortion medical director of Planned Parenthood) said, "90% of illegal abortions are being done by physicians."
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1. "Most abortions are in developing countries." The U.S. is only second to Russia in number of abortions.
2. "Where women don't have access to proper sex education or contraception." In America, only 8% of women getting an abortion had never used a contraceptive. 54% report using a contraceptive during the month they conceived.
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6. "Over 70,000 women die every year from unsafe abortion attempts." According to the Center for Disease Control, only 39 maternal deaths occured in the U.S. due to illegal abortions in 1972 (the year before Roe v Wade)
7. "Women will continue to have abortions even if it is illegal." People participate in violent gangs at great risk to themselves. That doesn't mean we make it legal.
KellyOR16 6 months ago
@KellyOR16
6. where did I say those statistics are from the United States? Can you please give a reference to your 39 deaths? What time period did it cover? A day, a month, a year?
7. by your same argument, nothing should be illegal because merely living life represents a great risk (seeing that it always ends in death). :P
imrational 6 months ago
3. "[Most women obtaining abortion] already have children." 50% of women obtaining abortions are under 25 so it's unlikely that most of them "already have children." 50% of women obtaingin abortions are teenagers and this percent isn't exactly negligable.
4. "Roe v Wade coincides with a massive drop in the crime rate." Massive flaws have been found in Levitt and Dubner's theory and it in no way proves that Roe v Wade caused this drop.
KellyOR16 6 months ago
@KellyOR16
4. I've read about the flaws in L&D's theory. If you've followed it, then you should have noted that their theory holds up even with the corrected data.
imrational 6 months ago
science????????????? What about morals and giving an unborn child a chance at life. I wonder what you would think if your mother told you "you know I was going to have an abortion when I found out I was pregnant with you. But it was too late." How about giving a baby up for adoption to those who can't have children or living with the idea that "hmmmmm if i have unprotected sex I just might get pregnant and will have to deal with it and not run to the easiest and most cruel way out."
themeyo89 7 months ago
@themeyo89
Unfortunately, a great number of people look down on people giving children up for adoption, so there is a social stigma that way too, not to mention the hardships and expenses of carrying a baby to term.
The best solution is to make sex education and birth control readily available to those having sex. Once again, however, we have people who are against things like that.
imrational 7 months ago