Monckton again claims he is a member of the House of Lords (19/7/11)

At the Australian National Press Club, Lord Christopher Monckton again asserted that he is a member of the House of Lords, not simply a hereditary peer.

Monckton has been repeatedly told by the UK Parliament to stop calling himself a Member of the House of Lords. A letter from the Clerk of Parliament, released to the public on July 18th states:

"I must repeat my predecessor's statement that you are not and have never been a Member of the House of Lords. Your assertion that you are a Member, but without the right to sit or vote, is a contradiction in terms. No-one denies that you are, by virtue of your letters Patent, a Peer. "

http://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2011/july/letter-to-viscount-monckton/

See the original letter here:
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-information-office/2011/letter-to-vi...

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[snertvart]

If anyone is actually interested in the truth of Lord Monckton's membership of the House of Lords, google 'dont mock the monck' (it's on Watts Up With That blog) and read the pdf linked at the bottom of the page for the full response, that unequivocally states that he IS a member, in the manner that he always states.

[tincoffin]

A constitutional lawyer has just said that Monckton is right on all counts and is a member of the House of Lords so that wraps it up for now unless you are a constitutional lawyer.

[widebody123]

This clown is NOT a member of the House of Lords and never has been. He inherited the title of Viscount on his father's death, which by protocol affords the appellation 'Lord Monckton' .

The clerk to the parliaments made a point of publishing a letter on the uk parliament website asking him to desist with his false claim.

[ZangaroZen]

@tincoffin, you quoted some of my statements without refuting ANY with facts.

You say "leader with an enormous popular mandate...majority in the House of Commons cannot be challenged in the courts nor can the act be prevented", yes assuming many culpable/unscrupilous PMs, except the Monarch could withhold royal assent and/or use reserve powers to dismiss the PM, etc

"in Germany", Hitler's case is different, the NAZIs engineered a crisis, secured martial law and circumvented the constitution

[tincoffin]

So a leader with an enormous popular mandate who passes an act with a majority in the House of Commons cannot be challenged in the courts nor can the act be prevented except by a slight delay in its implementation.Reminds me of the rise to power of old what's his face in Germany a few years back.Nice to know he would have found Britain a pushover. Anyway I'm of now. My last comment.

[tincoffin]

Your quotes: " parliamentary sovereignty means they can attend to laws WITHOUT courts challenging the constitutionality."

"Why no referendum regarding the 1999 Act?... Parliamentary Sovereignty, and huge landslide popular support for an election promise by the incoming Labour majority."

"while the ELECTED Commons has most of the power to exercise "parliamentary sovereignty"."

[tincoffin]

" parliamentary sovereignty means they can attend to laws WITHOUT courts challenging the constitutionality."

"Why no referendum regarding the 1999 Act?... Parliamentary Sovereignty, and huge landslide popular support for an election promise by the incoming Labour majority." "while the ELECTED Commons has most of the power to exercise "parliamentary sovereignty"."

[ZangaroZen]

(con't)

B) House of Lords declared Monckton has never been a member

C) Parliamentary sovereignty allows any law changes

D) 1999 House of Lords Act revoked 569 hereditary peer membership, Monckton's father included

E) Monckton can't inherit in 2006 what his father lost

F) an inherited title (patent letter) does not "by virtue" include a Writ of Summons

G) Baron Mereworth contested points E) and F) and lost

H) Monckton has NO House of Lords benefits: salary, office, staff, etc

Monckton's a fraud

[ZangaroZen]

(con't) Monckton's frauds:

A) Monckton's passport doesn't mention "House of Lords", while "The Right Honourable" refers to his 2006 inherited Viscount title ONLY, NOT membership in "the right honourable House of Lords", NOR a major city Majorship, NOR a Pivy Council seat, NOR a minister. Similarly Prior to 2006 Monckton's birth title of "Honourable" refered to being a Viscount's offspring NOT membership in "the honourable House of Commons"

(con't)

[ZangaroZen]

(con't)

3. "must justify it", NO Mereworth's FAILED case result is it's own justification

4. "if the reverse is true you must say why", parliamentary sovereignty means they can attend to laws WITHOUT courts challenging the constitutionality. The more powerful Commons can therefore change the legislature process, wihle the Lords can at best only delay such changes

5. "simply an assertion" rewatch the video, the topic is Monckton's fraudulent claims to membership in the House of Lords

(con't)