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@missmisyar
I am a Researcher, not a poet. I have no idea what does it all mean? It would help if you would address the topic directly & unambiguously. Then, perhaps, I might be of any assistance?
amoralis123 2 months ago
@amoralis123 hum DUA likhtey rahey, woh DAGHA perhtey rahay, aik hey NUKTEY ney mehram sey mujram bana diya.
missmisyar 2 months ago
@missmisyar
All have the same meanings. However, some pedants would object, saying that the intention of the person saying has to be known before a judgement can be made. If it is normal calling for attention it has nothing objectionable. But if the caller intends to invoke any kind of sacrament, then depending on the sacrament, it would be decided. There is nothing wrong with invoking names for seeking help as long as the caller is not equating it with Allah. You have to consult a Mufti.
amoralis123 2 months ago
@amoralis123 Yaa Ali, Yaa Hussain, Yaa Hassan. Yaa Batool.
missmisyar 2 months ago
@missmisyar
In Arabic it only means O Muhammed...that is all. May be I don't see anything in it? Those who are believers might see more? If there more to see and/or to know, I would like to learn.
As it is, for me, it has no meanings. It appears to be no different that saying ya Allah or
ya binti or ya waladi...
amoralis123 2 months ago
@amoralis123 Yaa Muhammad, Yaa Muhammad, Yaa Muhammad, Yaa Muhammad.
missmisyar 2 months ago
@missmisyar I am not a child to play games. I am not even a believer. My interest in Islam is purely intellectual. I am not interested in converting to Islam nor have I any interest to make someone leave. You asked me a question. I answered you to best my ability. The 1st line of Shahada says it all. You don't need a PhD in Theology or Arabic to know it. You can revere anyone you like as long as it reaches not worship. Wasila?: Some believe, others don't. Whether Wasila is shirk? Know I not.
amoralis123 2 months ago
@missmisyar
What is Shirk? I am not qualified to answer. Reverence of a prophet or a pious person is not required by Deene Islam. Islamic Faith is to Accept the Dictates of Allah and live accordingly. BTW, your prophet did not bring anything. Everything was there. Allah sent his message through him. Of course, it is a very exalted status but he is still a Nabi and a Rasool. This is my understanding of Islam. What people do in the name of Islam is another matter. It is beyond my scope.
amoralis123 2 months ago
@missmisyar
Your prophet is knows to have said before his demise that he was leaving two things: Islam to follow and the Quran as the guide. He is also known to have said only the deeds of the person shall decide its fate. He was unable even to recommend salvation even for his beloved daughter whom he adored. I fear that if HE were so strict & upright, he would have never allowed anyone to get salvation through him. ONLY THE DEED OF A PERSON SHALL DECIDE THE FATE AT THE JUDGEMENT DAY.
amoralis123 2 months ago
@missmisyar
I do not pretend to be a scholar of Islam or any other religion. My humble research on Islam indicates that your prophet was a very noble person who changed the world and its thinking. The most important aspect of his teaching is/was that the Creator has a direct relationship with His creation without any intermediary. It was a revolutionary concept in the days of Priests, Pundit, Rabbi and other Clergy. All of them were the intermediaries for and towards salvation.
amoralis123 2 months ago