if fascism is defined as "far-right extremist" that demonizes the left, like communists, minorities and the vulnerable in the name of economic progress for "us" and not for "them," then Horthy, Salazar, Mussolini, Franco, Hitler, etc. were all fascists, as are Jobbik in Hungary, National Front in France and BNP in U.K. "soft fascist" sounds like a fascist who failed to get ALL the power. no matter how much power u have or dont have, a fascist is a fascist is a fascist.
Horthy and Salazar were indeed not so bad (as Hitler), so it depends on the termonology, wether they were fascists. On the other hand, according to recent historical findings, Moussolini was really not much better than Hitler. Many people still think he was not really anti-semite, he was originally left-wing, blah blah blah. That's crap.
Regarding the notion that any of them were heroes... Well, I like censorship too!
Viktor Orban is a "soft fascist" himself, by the way...
I mean Horthy was the soft one! (Before I get flamed to dust by compatriots...) He was not fascist in the sense like Hitler was. But in the sense like Salazar, he most certainly was.
On the other hand, we actually had a pretty hard version as well, who was even worse than Hitler, since he was a complete idiot. His name was Ferenc Szalasi. He's not that popular in Hungary anymore, but still you can praise him according to our new "anti-extremist" laws.
Goddamn right he is! Just like when he said in Prague, "a Europe where people like Viktor Orban have power is not Europe anymore". Hungary is a country of many disturbing examples these days. By the way, we actually had a hard fascist dictator, not only a soft one, which was Admiral Horthy. In Hungary, by the way, you actually get "disqualified" if you call Horthy a fascist, they will simply regard you as a "brainwashed leftist idiot".
His idea is that advocating soft fascism is as ridículous as advocating rape, it simply disqualifies you. When he talks about soft fascism he's quoting an trend he sees in europe in relation to witch he of course is also opposed.
@anonseppxx why don you go somewhere and die?
sizeren123 1 month ago
if fascism is defined as "far-right extremist" that demonizes the left, like communists, minorities and the vulnerable in the name of economic progress for "us" and not for "them," then Horthy, Salazar, Mussolini, Franco, Hitler, etc. were all fascists, as are Jobbik in Hungary, National Front in France and BNP in U.K. "soft fascist" sounds like a fascist who failed to get ALL the power. no matter how much power u have or dont have, a fascist is a fascist is a fascist.
radmilitant 2 months ago
Horthy and Salazar were indeed not so bad (as Hitler), so it depends on the termonology, wether they were fascists. On the other hand, according to recent historical findings, Moussolini was really not much better than Hitler. Many people still think he was not really anti-semite, he was originally left-wing, blah blah blah. That's crap.
Regarding the notion that any of them were heroes... Well, I like censorship too!
Viktor Orban is a "soft fascist" himself, by the way...
danmarton 2 months ago
I mean Horthy was the soft one! (Before I get flamed to dust by compatriots...) He was not fascist in the sense like Hitler was. But in the sense like Salazar, he most certainly was.
On the other hand, we actually had a pretty hard version as well, who was even worse than Hitler, since he was a complete idiot. His name was Ferenc Szalasi. He's not that popular in Hungary anymore, but still you can praise him according to our new "anti-extremist" laws.
danmarton 2 months ago
Goddamn right he is! Just like when he said in Prague, "a Europe where people like Viktor Orban have power is not Europe anymore". Hungary is a country of many disturbing examples these days. By the way, we actually had a hard fascist dictator, not only a soft one, which was Admiral Horthy. In Hungary, by the way, you actually get "disqualified" if you call Horthy a fascist, they will simply regard you as a "brainwashed leftist idiot".
danmarton 2 months ago
@anonseppxx I'm going to assume, for your sake, that you're joking.
GoodManBadSerf 3 months ago
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bollocks, salazar, franco, horthy were not fascist, they were heroes
and Mussolini wasnt so bad after all
relax, folks
anonseppxx 5 months ago
Please, would somebody help me?
Where can I find the whole conference?
Thanks for your help...
calamaro70 7 months ago 2
Thanks for posting this.
Xephon212 8 months ago
His idea is that advocating soft fascism is as ridículous as advocating rape, it simply disqualifies you. When he talks about soft fascism he's quoting an trend he sees in europe in relation to witch he of course is also opposed.
BrunoAlvesCoelho 9 months ago 2