This is what Hillary means by "obliterate".
The photographs in this video were taken by an unknown Japanese photographer immediately after the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. They were recently discovered in the National Archives by a researcher at UC/Merced. They can be viewed here:
http://faculty.ucmerced.edu/smalloy/atomic_tragedy/photos.html
strange how things turn out
inijjer1 10 months ago
Yes great success with Libya. From what I can tell, the western powers have caved into all demands by Gaddafi to leave him alone in exchange for the free flow of oil.
Political, religious and economic freedom in Libya = 0.
Hardly the model that I'd personally be advocating.
inijjer 3 years ago
We have been talking tough on Iran for some years now and last time I checked Iranian influence in the region had grown by leaps and bounds. Today it rivals Saudi Arabia's.
The only success we have had in the whole region in the last eight years is with Libya, which had just as many scary features as Iran. We did it by cutting out the rhetoric and offering a carrot. It worked. Today Libya is largely neutralized as a threat to our interests.
So much for tough talk.
papakilatube 3 years ago
politics is the art of the possible.
My argument is tough talk/stances to work on occasion and I have named you 3 instances where tough talk did work or would have worked if used correctly.
inijjer 3 years ago
What the world needs out of Iran is political change. Ask any Iranian student who opposes the mullahs, ask any Iranian human rights activist, ask any reasonable person in Israel, and they will tell you how much good it does for American leaders to speak glibly about nuking Iran. None at all. Iranian democrats have been pleading for years for us to stop doing this, for it only reinforces the position of our enemies there. Tough talk feels good but solves nothing.
papakilatube 3 years ago
There's no difference between nuclear sabre rattling and nuclear deterrence.
It is no deterrence if people don't think you're insane enough to use them. Have a read through of the Cuban missile crisis and the collapse of the Soviet Union. The Russians and allies were so scared that the United States was insane and cowboy enough to actually follow through on threats that they had to back down.
Of course the cowboy act was a measured move to make it look like they were crazy.
inijjer 3 years ago
There's a huge difference between nuclear saber rattling and nuclear deterrence. Maybe eight years of Bush has blurred the distinction. True leaders don't rattle sabers. That's for folks like Saddam Hussein and John "Hussein" McCain. Hillary should know better, but she's walked away from her ideals in the quest for the uneducated white vote.
papakilatube 3 years ago
That's a novel analysis seeing as its appeasement that enabled the Germans to build up an army big enough to invade multiple countries.
inijjer 3 years ago
Speak carelessly and carry a big stick.
papakilatube 3 years ago
"Let him who desires peace prepare for war."
--- Vegetius
inijjer 3 years ago