Lip Vibration of Trombone Embouchures, Leno, Part 1 of 3

This film by Lloyd Leno shows trombone embouchures filmed using a transparent mouthpiece and high speed filming. Additional comments by Leno from a screening of this film are dubbed in. In part 1 of 3 Leno introduces his film, shows the downstream embouchure. James Fulkerson, George Roberts, Stewart Dempster, and Bill Watrous are shown.

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• George Roberts
• Stewart Dempster
• Bill Watrous
• Lloyd Leno
• James Fulkerson
• embouchure
• downstream

[wilktone]

Sorry, I went to reply and accidentally clicked remove.

The changes that go on can be minimized, but that doesn't necessarily make it a good thing to do so. Also, it is false that the embouchure muscles cannot be consciously controlled. What a singer in the 19th century says is not evidence.

Use logic to troubleshoot and fine tune your embouchure, not myth.

[wilktone]

Accidentally removed from zimnochmusic:

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Again I think smaertpot04 is reporting accuarately. If you look at his video on embrochure (here on youtube) he says it's all in the airstream. If you try to control it with embrochure muscles you'll end up "calling 911".

[bebopmomma]

@wilktone Keeping it simple: I teach beginners thru undergrads; Pivot System and some basic Caruso. If a student isn't going to practice, there's no point to any of it. We have to develop our reeds, we can't buy ours or trade them in. After switching them and finding their real niche, they begin to practice. I don't live where everyone works hard enough to be a brass player, but they can still enjoy music. Your videos are great. I get it; they don't. That's all I'm trying to say.

[wilktone]

@bebopmomma Depends on what you mean by "proper technique." Watch more of the videos I've posted here to learn what I mean, I can't explain in so few characters here. I guess it also depends on the age and aspirations of your students. I teach college, so I would discourage a student who doesn't have it in them for a career. But up through high school, I say let them play what they want and help them learn how to work with their anatomy rather than trying to change what can't be changed.

[bebopmomma]

@wilktone After 41 years of teaching, I've learned that not everyone who chooses a brass instrument will be successful at it. I too teach proper technique, but some students today are too lazy to do the work necessary to be successful at brass instruments. I am not meant to play flute, by comparison, nor interested in wasting resources in times like these. They have all been happy with switching to clarinet and sax and have all been highly successful with the switch.

[wilktone]

@bebopmomma Personally, if a student wants to play a brass instrument I teach him/her to play it properly, rather than switching them to instrument they may not be interested in.

[bebopmomma]

@wilktone Yes, things change. Watrous probably doesn't make any conscious changes, as is the case for most of us, but if something doesn't change, i.e., air speed, vibrations, aperture size, direction of the air stream, pitches for example WON'T change. It's all about physics whether we think about it when we're playing or not. It's a concept that many beginners don't "get" about learning a brass instrument, so I switch 'em to a reed instrument. Excellent video. Thanks for posting.

[nuremberger1]

Geoge Roberts先生のLow Fの唇の振動を高速撮影した動画。Bill Watrous氏もあります。イメージわきます。

[zimnochmusic]

Yes been working on that. Excellent warm-up! That exercise I believe was started by Arnold Jacobs the 50 yr veteran of the Chicago Symphony.

[LOVEMESEXY111]

trills D to F Db to E C to Eb etc. and of course long tones to start and finish. Learned from Steve TOAD Stewart now in the Jazz hall of fame.

[LOVEMESEXY111]

Try the Lick ona Hot one for Jason song 9 Bonified and If you can play double low Bflat up to the triple F with same embouchere then you're doing something.