The China Study

Many other scientists have reached the same conclusions.
"It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes." (ADA)

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[howzaou812]

I would say the smart thing to do is choose your meats wisely. Eat only grass fed meats and free range produced eggs. I would be willing to bet the excess sugar consumption is the real culprit. They never mention that in these studies. Its always meat vs. plants.  Both are needed. What is not needed is added sugars. Cut out sodas and sweeteners and table sugar. You will thrive on both meat and plants.

[741Dave]

@howzaou812 They talk about refined foods, sugars, processed foods. It is all the same. Eating meat and animal products is bad for your health, proven fact.

[howzaou812]

@741Dave There are some major holes in the China Study so be careful about over interpreting the data. I'll say it over and over..Sugar and refined foods are the enemy. Meat and plants are both fine. Just in the correct amounts and the best quality of each.

[741Dave]

@howzaou812 You couldn't possibly be more wrong, and there are plenty of other studies to back that up. Spend some time 'with' Dr Esselstyn, Dr Ornish, Dr Barnard, Dr McDougall, and the hundreds of studies by many other peer-reviewed studies that CONLUSIVELY show meat and animal products are BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH. Not to mention the environmental and socio-economic disaster that occurs with the production of animal products. We already know the cure for MANY diseases, but lies sustain us.

[jacobh849]

The food pyramid was made for the best intrests of big corporations.

[741Dave]

@jacobh849 agree, not about caring about you or your family at all. Thanks.

[Spwoks]

@howzaou812 How can you say that sugar and refined foods are the real culprits and exclude meat when the studies (scientific proof) show proteins from animal products (i.e. casein) induce negative health affects? Sugar and refined foods do this also, but you can't neglect the evidence presented on animal products. Even if the animals eat plants, they process the proteins in the plants and create different proteins in their bodies, so grass fed-or not, the proteins produced are very similar.

[MrsPollen]

People just want to feel okay eating meat. I love meat and dairy but I know I will die in my 60s like the rest of my family. There is tones of scientific evidence that shows what meat and dairy does to the body. You can't deny statistics. The Okinawa people are the longest living people in the world because they eat a plant based diet. They do eat small amounts of pork for flavour but that is basically it. I wish people wouldn't say nasty things in their comments. I can't stand fanatici

[nocomments38]

@howzaou812

and most of the research Ive done do support that plant based diet is really healthy. its coming from the world cancer research center and American Dietetic Association and many other places. do research and see for yourself.

[nocomments38]

@howzaou812

you are saying meat is not bad but the process foods and sugar are the real culprit. well, as a personal experience for being vegan for 9 months now. the only major change I made is getting rid of animals. I actually eat more sugar than used to. but I still feel much much better than used to. so as a personal experimenter on this, I really dont think sugar and processed foods are the only culprit but the animal flesh is also one of the biggest enemies.

[lovebigboobs29]

The china study is just some biased vegan propaganda crap. None of its true and its total bullshit. We are meant to eat both meat and plants.

[BenTheThird]

He doesn't say anything about carbohydrates! ugh...

[leavantgarage]

@741Dave Your response sucks. Prove it to me, don't just say something is a fact when it isn't.

[741Dave]

@leavantgarage Then you didn't look (for fact). Look at the chance of heart attack or stroke with vegans - almost NONE. Your case is not 99% of people, and it also doesn't mean you won't drop dead tomorrow. Good luck with that.

[leavantgarage]

@741Dave Funny, you say 'fact' a lot but I can't find any proof to suggest that vegans have the longest life span of any group. You'd also have to specifically name the other groups you're talking about so we know you're not lumping mainstream, unhealthy Americans in with health-conscious omnivorous people. My family has no heart disease, no cancer, no diabetes. We all live to be in our 90s or over 100. Good genes? Hell yes, but we don't eat much shitty processed foods either. Bingo.

[TERAPIAPARAMISAMIGAS]

When you get to hard with a diet, finally stres will take care of you, there is nothing like meet from Brazil once or twice a month, it wont kill me...I asure you.