Ravi Zacharias The Existence of God part 2 of 6

This is one of my favorite speeches on the existence of God by a Christian popular apologist, Dr. Ravi Zacharias.

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[1988TheHitman]

Ravi is amazing id love to meet him : ) if i dont meet him on earth il see him in heaven anyway so thats good : )

[1988TheHitman]

Really? How are you sure? If God has said in his word that he goes to prepare a place in heaven for all them that love him then who shall I put my trust in? You? Or Him that created us? You can see heaven one day too if you ask Jesus to forgive you of yor sins : )

[PartyCommunist]

Iraqui body count of around 1,000,000 and forced exiled "ex-patriots" of 4.5 million forced out of Iraq since the illegal invasion.

Ravi Zacharias is amazing, but he is sadly obviously blinded by the politically motivated USA Imperialist bloodthirsty wars. Will he further blindly follow Yankee oil-driven mammon as it declares untold wars on the poor and vulnerable?

[skygurung13]

GOD BLESS HIM :)

[FaceOfGod2]

Why can't I post?

[Tobytrim]

@REDRAGON12345 ""If there is no God, then all that exists is time and chance acting on matter"

Not "chance" - DETERMINATION. It's only chance from the perspective of a limited human brain, which lacks the knowledge or powerful enough equative powers to make any prediction. This determination takes time.

The rest of the argument is silly. Logic is a tool of the brain. It allowed us to survive in a primaeval state because we developed the ability to make predictions from experience.

[Tobytrim]

@REDRAGON12345 " If no God, mankind is a set of bi-pedal carbon units of mostly water"

Whether there is a god or not, such is an observable fact! Although , these carbon atoms and protein molecules have become a far more complex chemical process by now-Lol!

However, your personal faith, and unverifiable incredulity, aside, you have STILL to deliver OBSERVABLE evidence for a god to make your argument fly!

[Tobytrim]

@REDRAGON12345 "As Plantinga has said, we could be living is a sort of dream world on a naturalistic viewpoint."

If Plantinga wants to invoke Cartesian "cogito" or reduce the whole of human perception of reality down to solipsism, he pretty much negates his own decision (within the SAME perception of reality) to read the bible, hear all he has learned about it, and decide to believe on faith and assume THAT to be reality. The argument is silly and self refuting!

[Tobytrim]

@REDRAGON12345" I always find it fascinating when people like you try and deny this deterministic view........"

I HAVEN'T denied it. Our brains ARE, observably the result of natural determination, NOT pre-concieved design - Whether I trust my brain or not is moot - It's all I have to appraise reality. It's all YOU have to read the bible and believe it on faith. I prefer to accept what is observable and verifiable. I'm happy you're fascinated though.???????

[REDRAGON12345]

@Tobytrim I always find it fascinating when people like you try and deny this deterministic view that comes with believing in naturalism. Its interesting because we all want to trust our brains and we think we should be able too, but in the end its a self defeating/inconsistent view.

[REDRAGON12345]

@Tobytrim "Morality, tragedy, and sorrow are equally evanescent. They are all empty sensations created by the chemical reactions of the brain. If there is no God, then all abstractions are chemical epiphenomena. This means that we have no reason for assigning truth and falsity to the chemical fizz we call reasoning or right and wrong to the irrational reaction we call morality. If no God, mankind is a set of bi-pedal carbon units of mostly water. And nothing else"

[REDRAGON12345]

@Tobytrim Another big problem I see with Naturalism "If there is no God, then all that exists is time and chance acting on matter. If this is true then the difference between your thoughts and mine correspond to the difference between shaking up a bottle of Mountain Dew and a bottle of Dr. Pepper. You simply fizz atheistically and I fizz theistically. This means that you do not hold to atheism because it is true , but rather because of a series of chemical reactions" Cont