Brave New Conversations: Daniel Ellsberg and Matt Hoh Pt. 1
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Fascinating conversation. One of the most interesting points to me was when Elseberg pointed out the language factor that the US military took into account the most what the people who spoke English had to say. I've always theorized that if you learn the language of the people, you learn their real feelings. You also have to change a small part of yourself. Be convinced by their way of life and step away from any goals of showing them a better path.
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I think Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran ... and the whole Islamic mosque-state worldwide confederation is a different thing from Viet Nam. At least I would have to hear a lot of facts from Ellsberg to prove to me it is the same.
I do think it is folly and possibly suicidal folly that did this on borrowed money, but we did it for a reason that way, and it is to control the American people. Oue behind the scenes leaders and corporations are just as dangerous as Islamic fundamentalism.
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I think the reason more people don't speak out is because of the bonds formed among the elite ruling class, and the priviliges/prestige/economic benefits that come from staying in elite circles of power rather than speaking out and becoming a pariah...It's certain once you speak out you will never get within those elite circles of power again...Chomsky offers good insights on this...as do "classical liberals" Ayn Rand, Freidman, and Adam Smith. Pure profit motive/selfish desire.
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Yes, but the money that went to the war went to the private contractors and corporations. And the benefit of the new oil and pipeline goes to corporations. So from their perspective its win-win but for the tax payer its loose-loose.
Tax payers pay for the oil at least twice. Once is money and blood, and second in money and freedom (freedom because every dollar they pay for oil they the corporations have another .10 dollar to buy politicians, laws, etc ).
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I think Matt Hoh is still a little brain washed from his army training. Comparing American to the Russian he says that the Russians fought a brutal, brutal war and the Americans are the most disciplined army in the world. Watch some of the winter soldier stories and you get the sense that the Amercans too are just killers. A disciplined army would check intelligence before dropping a bomb on a village or a wedding, or an ally. Tell me white phosphorus at Fallujah is not brutal, what about DU.
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The point of the video seems to be that the important issue is to understand the people not understand yourself. That is understand the people, their history and their culture.
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Went to see his Ellsberg's documentary, as it premièred in my country at my university. Extremely one-sided, but very interesting nonetheless.
BraveNewFilms Always Putting out the Truth Big ups respect
dopeskies 2 years ago 7
- time to leave Afghanistan, I know the whole Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran puzzle is more complicated than I could ever fully understand - I still think leaving Afghanistan is a better choice than 'doubling down' on the bet my country has already made
toddc123 2 years ago 4