Social Contract
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@FearedBliss When did this happen? When did I consent? More likely than not, you have no idea where the representatives who signed the constitution came from. Do you really think they were democratically elected by all the people?
Stop calling this voluntary. You already admitted you don't believe in a voluntary society
If a representative democracy is really a social contract, where did it come from? Or is it merely a construct in your circular reasoning?
GoingGoingGalt 2 weeks ago
@GoingGoingGalt You voluntarily consented and transferred your power to this delegate. This isn't hard to understand.
FearedBliss 2 weeks ago
@GoingGoingGalt Jesus dude.. you lack critical thinking. You have to stop thinking in extremes. Just as you said "Of course, the constitution is the best of these governments by far". A representative democracy is also a social contract. If you have the power to directly elect someone, but choose to give that up when you transfer power to a local rep to represent you, you are consenting for him to make decisions on your behalf. Social Contract is still intact.
FearedBliss 2 weeks ago
@FearedBliss We're not discussing a voluntary society at the moment. We are discussing the social contract. Which you now show me it has no leg to stand on
GoingGoingGalt 2 weeks ago
@FearedBliss My, you're slipper than slime. Just a few days ago you were using the US as an example of a government working for the people. Now you admit that isn't the case. You also said a Social Contract is something a group of people have to decide for themselves. Now you admit it wasn't the people, but the representatives of a bunch of states, who themselves are questionable with regard to representing the people. So where exactly is this social contract?
GoingGoingGalt 2 weeks ago
@GoingGoingGalt There isn't a conflict with the Social Contract and the small group. When this (US) nation was founded, a small group made it, but remember, this small group was a representation of each state. Therefore this was already the Social Contract.
I agree with you, our government isn't working for us. It's working for the rich and the corporations. But that doesn't mean I believe in no government, minimal government, or an all voluntary society.
FearedBliss 2 weeks ago
@FearedBliss Too late. That argument could have worked had you not already mentioned that the social contract is based on people coming together and forming themselves a society, not a small group. Now that we have established that indeed they were, you are going to have to reconcile.
Also, the problem is that this government doesn't work for the people. Look at it! Congress has less than 20% approval while the average incumbency rating is around 80-90%. So much for that.
GoingGoingGalt 2 weeks ago
@GoingGoingGalt I can care less whether the government was formulated by a small group of people. The only thing I care about is that the government formulated works for and by the people once it's initialized. Putting restrictions and forcing segregation and or restrict voting rights is bad in my opinion. However, enforcing integration is perfectly fine by me. I don't believe in "Voluntary" action for every field of Sociology.
FearedBliss 2 weeks ago
@FearedBliss Really? What about all the voting restrictions that only allow white males with land to vote? What about the restrictions that made slavery legal? And honestly, even given that this government helps the common man, even you admit it was formulated by a small group, not like in your fantasy.
Of course, the constitution is the best of these governments by far, but can you honestly think of anything that can back up the claim that this "theory" of yours goes back thousands of years?
GoingGoingGalt 2 weeks ago
@GoingGoingGalt You are completely wrong. You could read history and find multiple traces. I will give you the example of the formation of the US. You could say "The US was created by elites" .. of course, a group of let's say 25 individuals blah blah blah.. but if you read the constitution and what they wrote, it wasn't created "for elites" as you claim, it was created for the people, and it was mean't to be continued by the people as well. Very specific separation of powers in all parts of gov
FearedBliss 2 weeks ago