F-22 Raptor ACC approved new DEMO profile

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Fast (super-cruise*) and stealthy, and integrated avionics are cool, but what's really impressive is the F/A-22s low speed stability and maneuverability. In the late 40s and to early 60s aeronautical engineers were going nuts on how to shape intakes to handle both subsonic and super-sonic air flows, without stagnation or compressor stalls. Supersonic in itself was a big challenge because you had to use shock waves to slow the intake air mass to sub-sonic before it hit the compressor blades, or they would stall. The engineers figured it out, but the solution was keeping a lot of air going in the front end to make sure the all hot air kept going out the back end. As you watch this Mach 2 airplane suspend motionless in air and do tail slides, be aware of the truly amazing performance of the engines and intakes.

Some used to think the Su-27 / Su-31 "Cobra" maneuver was the epitome of 3rd to 4th generation fighter maneuverability. That snap maneuver doesn't hold a candle to what this two-dimensional vectored-thrust fighter with fat independent horizontal stabs can do at low speed. There must be far more tricks up its sleeve in the high subsonic dogfight speed range.

The video is about 5 minutes long but the last 30-40 seconds are priceless.

ACC recently approved the Raptors new DEMO profile. This was the first show. Five minute video.

Watch the elevators of the airplane in this demo. How did they make them strong enough to handle all the stress caused by these maneuvers, especially in tail slides? The elevators work independently. It also has vectored thrust.

ACC = Air Combat Command (for the non-Air Force folks)
*Supercruise: The F/A-22 can sustain supersonic flight without the use of fuel-gulping afterburners.

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  • F-22 is not radar invisible in 1998 the F-117 was shoutdown and he was also radar invisible so dont forget there is solution for every weapon

  • The F-117 is technology from 2-1/2 decades ago. To modern radar, the F-22 is virtually invisible.

    And the F-22 has superior radar systems to the Su-37. So you still have not yet explained how the Su-37 will "see" the F-22 first. BVR (Beyond visual range) first shot is everything in modern air combat.

  • No way this crap can bet the sukhoy-37 no way man

  • And just how is the Su-37 going to "see" the practically radar-invisible F-22 before the F-22 sees the Su-37. Please explain.

  • You guys sound like a bunch of 5 yr olds arguing about who's toy is better. Grow up. The truth of the matter is with the right pilot, any airplane can be a formidable opponent for each other, I dont care which one is more maneuverable.

  • I agree - but only in specific and IMHO mostly unusual situations. An F-104 can take on an F-15 in the right setup. But in a real-world scenario situation, warplanes with significantly better BVR capability should prove to be very difficult to deal with, regardless of the incredible skill another pilot may have. Unless detection capability increases in a large way, IMHO, dogfights will be an increasingly unlikely situation, especially in the case of the F22.

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  • To everyone arguing the "limits" of the F-22 vs. other aircraft based on youtube videos (lolz), keep in mind that this thing is performing nowhere near it's limits. Do you really think the govt. spent all that time and money to give away all of it's secrets to the general public? Please. Unless you're a test pilot, dogfight vet, or just got shot down by one, you're never going to really know how good these machines are. End of story. Playing Flight Sim X all day doesn't make you an ace.

  • F-22 for President, 2012.

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  • @Leoneidas using IRST ( infra red search and track)

  • What people should be debating is if a su-37 could kill an f-15. 

  • The f-22 will 99.99% of the time see another aircraft before it sees him. Today that is everything.

  • Dogfights are few and far between. Once both sides have a streath fighter then, I think, dogfights may become real again. The f-15 has never been shot down because of the intel it gets from the ground and air radar. The f- 22 goes even further with this intel gathering and sharing strategy. F-15 pilots were told to avoid dogfights with mig-29s because they could out turn them in a dogfight. Still evenn with this extra maneuverability the migs always lost or ran home.

  • All the crazy moves you see the su's doing are post stall. Even if an f-15 was at his 6 all they would have to do is point the nose down and fire. The F22 has the power and the avionics to do extreme manuvers and still be in stable flight. The only way to get the f22 on radar is if you use a low freq. radar system. But even then these systems give bad readouts because they pick up so much. In modern air combat fighters are never alone and use things like awacs to see far into bvr.

  • @Deviancebrother F-117 was shot in 1999. :D

  • wow it is able to fly straight up and not stall?

  • exactly, but some people believe everything they hear and that fact is sad lol.

  • I agree with you, and also lets forget the limits of this plane being secret for a moment. Think about the aircraft that they have not let the public know about yet, if ever. lol I really wish I could be in the loop on what we really have. haha

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