F-22 Raptor ACC approved new DEMO profile
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To everyone arguing the "limits" of the F-22 vs. other aircraft based on youtube videos (lolz), keep in mind that this thing is performing nowhere near it's limits. Do you really think the govt. spent all that time and money to give away all of it's secrets to the general public? Please. Unless you're a test pilot, dogfight vet, or just got shot down by one, you're never going to really know how good these machines are. End of story. Playing Flight Sim X all day doesn't make you an ace.
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F-22 for President, 2012.
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@Leoneidas using IRST ( infra red search and track)
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What people should be debating is if a su-37 could kill an f-15.
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The f-22 will 99.99% of the time see another aircraft before it sees him. Today that is everything.
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Dogfights are few and far between. Once both sides have a streath fighter then, I think, dogfights may become real again. The f-15 has never been shot down because of the intel it gets from the ground and air radar. The f- 22 goes even further with this intel gathering and sharing strategy. F-15 pilots were told to avoid dogfights with mig-29s because they could out turn them in a dogfight. Still evenn with this extra maneuverability the migs always lost or ran home.
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All the crazy moves you see the su's doing are post stall. Even if an f-15 was at his 6 all they would have to do is point the nose down and fire. The F22 has the power and the avionics to do extreme manuvers and still be in stable flight. The only way to get the f22 on radar is if you use a low freq. radar system. But even then these systems give bad readouts because they pick up so much. In modern air combat fighters are never alone and use things like awacs to see far into bvr.
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@Deviancebrother F-117 was shot in 1999. :D
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wow it is able to fly straight up and not stall?
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exactly, but some people believe everything they hear and that fact is sad lol.
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I agree with you, and also lets forget the limits of this plane being secret for a moment. Think about the aircraft that they have not let the public know about yet, if ever. lol I really wish I could be in the loop on what we really have. haha
F-22 is not radar invisible in 1998 the F-117 was shoutdown and he was also radar invisible so dont forget there is solution for every weapon
Deviancebrother 3 years ago
The F-117 is technology from 2-1/2 decades ago. To modern radar, the F-22 is virtually invisible.
And the F-22 has superior radar systems to the Su-37. So you still have not yet explained how the Su-37 will "see" the F-22 first. BVR (Beyond visual range) first shot is everything in modern air combat.
Leoneidas 3 years ago
No way this crap can bet the sukhoy-37 no way man
Deviancebrother 3 years ago
And just how is the Su-37 going to "see" the practically radar-invisible F-22 before the F-22 sees the Su-37. Please explain.
Leoneidas 3 years ago
You guys sound like a bunch of 5 yr olds arguing about who's toy is better. Grow up. The truth of the matter is with the right pilot, any airplane can be a formidable opponent for each other, I dont care which one is more maneuverable.
AV8R4HM 4 years ago
I agree - but only in specific and IMHO mostly unusual situations. An F-104 can take on an F-15 in the right setup. But in a real-world scenario situation, warplanes with significantly better BVR capability should prove to be very difficult to deal with, regardless of the incredible skill another pilot may have. Unless detection capability increases in a large way, IMHO, dogfights will be an increasingly unlikely situation, especially in the case of the F22.
Leoneidas 4 years ago