News #1 Rebecca Watson Elevator Incident

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[Elenkhos]

People want to have sex. Some people are not social fucking engineers, and are not very constructive in the way they approach people. Say "No thank you" and move the fuck on.

[Artem1sEntreri]

@runtodahills Exactly. I wonder how she would've reacted if an Armani model approached her in the same manner and whether she would then find that offensive at all. Probably not.

[chigeh]

@JustHuman48 Is their something wrong with being interested in a woman for sex? Did it not occur to you that he might have been interested in sex AND her personality? Is approaching a woman you do not know and making her feel uncomfortable an act of opression? Were her human rights violated in this situation?

[TheEdgarAllenGospis]

@JustHuman48 how is it insulting? discomfort and an odd threatened felling is natural but that is not to say that th social attitude is different where she was, also he may have only had the one night, Maybe he just wanted some goddam coffee with her. Sexuallizing, she is either flattering her self or taking the sexual image of men as a pure reality. Plus, some of us are just shitty at socializing. Tp me this no more tha "men think only with their penis"

[Clemburke1111]

So as a small gay man on an elevator at 4 in the morning and a big burly gay man ask for for coffee in his room, is that sexist ?

[JustHuman48]

If you're interested in a woman as a person and not for a one night stand, this is not the way to approach a woman you don't even know. The whole "you women are privileged because you don't get your genitals mutilated" argument is redundant. Western women are well aware of the extreme suffering of other women in far less equal socities, however this is not a reason to stop attempting to ameliorate the cultural behaviours in our own societies.

[JustHuman48]

On the surface this may not sound like much but you're alone a with a man you don't know, you can't leave immediately, he's suggesting you join him in his room rather than a public place (cafe?!), he's suggesting you join him at 4am instead of suggesting that you meet the following day in a public place. As a woman, I would find this threatening and somewhat insulting...

[JustHuman48]

I can understand why some people cannot relate to Watson's view however if you consider that statistically, most victims of rape and physical abusiveness from the opposite sex are women, you might start to understand why it feels threatening for a man to proposition a women at 4am, in an elevator, when she's alone and can't escape and also, why invite her to your hotel room for a coffee? You're a complete stranger to her...

[garbledstoic]

In defense of Dawkins. I have to sit around with a bunch of white, upper middle-class white guys who complain that, although they have most everything the world could possibly give one in terms of material wealth, they just don't like taxes. Now, that is valid. But shit, half the world is starving or close to it. I think it is the constant whining of the fortunate that sounds so grating against the moans of the truly oppressed. Get it now?

[DoctorSkepticus]

@88Keyz101

How so? The white guy in my analogy said nothing overtly racist in his chant either and actual racists would likely defend him with the same reasoning you use here to attack RW. The fictional white guy in my analogy is "racist" in the same way that the elevator guy was being creepy and predatory(not in the way that an actual rapist would be so don't mangle what I said here).

[DoctorSkepticus]

@Urantivirus

She never made an issue "with the world" out of the matter. She posted a polite comment explaining something that seems rather obvious to most people; that being hit on in such a way(by a stranger from a bar at 4:00 am who is feigning interest in conversation as if she is brain dead) makes her feel uneasy.

AGAIN, to get a better understanding of WHY imagine you were sent to prison and a very large inmate was being creeepily 'nice' to you and you know full well he is aiming for sex

[urantivirus]

@DoctorSkepticus Oh STFU and grow some balls already. There's nothing wrong with hitting on people. The polite thing to do in her case was to simply decline his offer, not to try and make it an issue with the world. The truth is she's a cold and bitter, cynical bitch. Which is fine, anyone is aloud to have whatever personality they want. But if you're defending her position, you fall in the same category.

I've had women that I had no interest in hit on me, I was polite about it.