You are Right: Christianity Is Evil and Ignores the Bible

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[paulgem123]

@carlsonap16 Show me so I can say, I cannot say if you don't show.

[carlsonap16]

@paulgem123 so if i can show a direct and explicit contradiction what will you say?

[paulgem123]

@carlsonap16 He does not contradict he builds upon. He is using a teaching technique of being overly rhetorical. his play on words is because you should know the answer. This is why Paul gets such flack from people. Jews answer questions with questions it like poetry but without rhymes. I will try and explain with a video if I can find it.

[carlsonap16]

@paulgem123 He knew the way but wasn't of the way. Sanctification isn't a process but growing in knowledge is. What i am saying if what you say is true, Paul contradicts chapter 7 versus 14-25 in chapter 6, chapte 8, and the first 13 verses of chapter 7

[paulgem123]

@carlsonap16 Chapter 7 flip flops from flesh to Spirit back and forth it has nothing to do with one not being there. It also talks about the penalty of disobedience 8:13. Sanctification is a process and this is the message here that if we remain faithful He will save us. Same thing as Deut 28 And Matt 25. Peter wasn't saved till after Yeshua rose? John 6:68-69 sounds to me like he knew the way before then. Not sure how you came up with that.

[carlsonap16]

@paulgem123 Peter wasn't saved ever until after Messiah rose from the dead.

As to Paul saying he is prone to the flesh, how can that be when that contradicts explicitly the chapter directly preceding and the chapter directly ffollowing?

i can send you an email with the proof comparison if you want. i show how every claim in chapter 7 verses 14-25 is explicitly contradicted exactly in the preceding and following chapter

[paulgem123]

@carlsonap16 I respectfully disagree. Paul realizes that he too is prone to the nature that is controlled by flesh. We also see it in Peter as he denies Yeshua 3 times as Yeshua told him he would.

[carlsonap16]

@paulgem123 Romans chapter 7 talks about the sinner rather than the saved person. what you reference is not in contradiction to the two natures idea but the bible in no way requires this doctrine of two natures and in my opinion implies throughout a sole nature which can be turned to either good or evil.

[paulgem123]

@carlsonap16 Yes you are right we CAN chose but the Bible is full of people who should have known and were instructed properly but chose to go against the instructions of YHWH. This is the lessons from this weeks Torah portion Toldot the Generations of Isaac. Explains the two natures of men. Also Paul clearly illustrates it in Romans 7.

[carlsonap16]

@paulgem123 i believe we have free will. We can choose to sin or choose to not sin. I believe we have only one inclination, and we must direct it either to the good or the bad.