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Wretched Radio with Todd Friel - John Piper, Beth Moore, and Lectio Divina at Passion 2012

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Uploaded by on Jan 12, 2012

Discussing the "lecto-lite" at Passion 2012 and Desiring God's endorsment of the practice.

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  • one more thing.. Piper still promotes Richard Foster (contemplative guru) on his website. What is Piper doing with these mystic teachers and participating with them. Then again-- why does Piper call Rick Warren his "brother in Christ"?

  • @mezzomama3 I like Piper, but honestly I think he has in the past made some real POOR choices with his discernment, this and his connection with Piper and Driscoll being my biggest peeves! Prayer and meditation in the context of what Beth Moor and Richard Foster teach is NOT biblical. We are to pray WITH our minds at all times, not empty it and then do silly mantras! I can't understand how he doesn't get that.

  • Thank you Piper!!! This is from Desiring God's website:

    Update: Formerly I listed Lectio Divina as a third system for prayer. I've since removed it for the confusion it has caused. We do not endorse contemplative spirituality. The main point I'd like to recommend is using the text of Scripture as an organizer for our prayers — prayers that are exegetically faithful and gospel rich. I'm sorry for introducing the category.

  • @PursuingTHETruth12 Thanks for posting this

  • I like, respect, and have learned from John Piper, but I must say this is some weird stuff. I dont know of any scriptural basis for it either...

  • @astherrien That's problem...there is none

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  • There are those who are saying that what Dr, Piper is doing is the same thing as Jesus, when He went and spent time with publicans and harlots. If this is so why is Dr. Piper entering into and practicing their "sin"? Namely the practices and teaching of those who are "publicans, harlots and drinkers" So ...they are saying that my questions are the same as the Pharisees Matthew 9:11.. when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, "Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?"

  • BTW-- Piper did not state that. someone who works for him did.

  • "Is the truth inside of us? No that's Oprah."

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