DOES GOD EXIST? William Lane Craig vs Antony Flew (HQ) 7/11

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[2005ndcstudent]

what's with all the banging and shouting? how terribly rude! why weren't the perpetrators removed??

[scar504]

Antony flew reminds me of professor farnsworth in the episode were he presents his death clock at the scientific academy the schematics of which he wrote on a napkin. That being said i feel sorry for him and hope that people understand the is indeed a very intelligent man.

[ShawDAMAN]

@billhicks8 the first minute is indeed uncomfortable but it seems to have been exacerbated by some disturbance in the crowd we can't hear or see clearly. He's obviously not in great shape but for most of the debate I actually found his expressions to be quite sufficiently lucid if not as fluently enunciated as he may at another time have been capable of. I just felt your description of "a confused, stuttering, incoherent and senile man" was excessive. Cheerio

[billhicks8]

@ShawDAMAN

I have little personal interest in simply feeling sore for a poorly represented atheist position in this debate, nor do I make these observations as a personal attack on Flew. His own dignity is undermined here, any attempt to look positively on this awkward and uncomfortable situation feels patronising to a once sharp and analytical intellect. The first minute of this video segment in particular is excruciating.

[ShawDAMAN]

@billhicks8 I agree it's wrong for the religious to in effect 'recruit' Flew who withheld belief in any kind of doctrinal set of beliefs. However I see no good reason to call Flew 'incoherent and senile,' he was certainly not in the best of physical shape but I understand him fine and I see some atheists with almost equal eagerness to discredit Flew's intellectual state and therefore his conclusions.

[quranresponse]

@HMSRedbeard Quran:

(SURAH-3-THE FAMILY OF IMRAN-VS-25)

Then how will it be when we shall gather them together on a day about which there is no doubt, and every soul shall be fully paid what it has earned, and they shall not be dealt with unjustly?

[quranresponse]

@ianuseraccountname Quran:

(Surah-2-the cow-vs-186)

And when my servants ask you concerning me, then surely I am very near; I answer the prayer of suppliant when he calls on me, so they should answer my call and believe in me that they may walk in the right way.

[curtsphobias]

This guy/atheist wrote a book?! This hurts to watch, I think it's time for him to hang up his towel and retire in defeat. Creation FTW!!!

[HMSRedbeard]

What an amazing discourse on the sovereignty of God and the freewill of man from a soul that denies the existence of God! This is a Theistic doctrine that has been debated for centuries, and good men have varying degrees of belief. The Biblical principle of the free will of man is just as true as the sovereignty of God, hence the debate within the Church over the centuries! When one tries to deny one truth or the other, one creates error. Dr. Flew's "Theology" is flawed and does not damage WLC.

[Hillsillverr]

@AmenMaranhata u mean angels...