1911s Made in the Philippines
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Good video gunshows are a great market place.
I have heard the story about .45 being made to replace the .38spl for use of US military.
The year was 1905 that is a fact most the rest are just stories.
Whatever the reason was what a glorious masterpiece the 1911 was!
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If you can't wait for the Armscor 1911s with full-length rails, you can go for the Thunderbolt (hopefully at a much more affordable price) or another gun that suits your liking.
I strongly suggest you think long and hard about what purpose the gun will fulfill. Next, find a gun that "feels right" to you. It may sound weird but if the gun doesn't "feel right" or fit you, you most likely will be less motivated to use it.
Just my advice so you have no regrets after buying. :)
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@TheAgeOfExploration havent seen any railed 1911's from armscor here in the Philippines...hope they come out soon, as I am a very impatient guy and would buy a gun in a heartbeat if i like it.
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I agree. :)
If your favorite feature that you have your eyes on is the rail, you might want to wait a bit. Armscor released 1911 Tactical models with full-length rails. I believe they had rail versions on the A1 (single stack frame) and A2 (double stack frame) models. I haven't seen them for sale commercially here in the Philippines yet.
Check out the Rock Island Armory 1911 Tactical videos. I think Martin Tuason has a presentation video on the 1911 models.
I hope this helps. :)
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@TheAgeOfExploration tnx, i too believe that a Spartan is a better value for the money...since it has mostly STI internals, not saying that armscor's are bad, im just saying that STI is better. What i really like about the thunderbolt is the rail though, i dont care much for the other goodies that goes with it...if only they made the spartan with rails, and that would have been just perfect.
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Unfortunately, the Gun Show (Defense and Sporting Arms Show) is regularly held in SM Megamall, Mandaluyong City, Metro Manila in Luzon.
I think people caught on to the Thunderbolt because of the custom features it has loaded in the package (like the rail, magazine well guide, checkering, fiber optic front sight, etc. -- the attention to detail). Yes, that was the latest model.
In the PhP 40,000 range, you'll probably get a better value with the STI Spartan (SRP is PhP 45,000).
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@TheAgeOfExploration where will this gun show be held? i apologize but i am all the way from Mindanao. Is the demand for the thunderbolt really that high? That may mean that the gun is reliable then? (forgive me for asking too much, but if it would not be such a hassle, i would like to ask your opinion if which 1911 i should buy. I am torn between the STI spartan and the SAM thunderbolt? and also is the thunderbolt in the video the latest one? (two tone with left side thumb safety only).
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Wow, that's almost double the price! I wouldn't be surprised though since that is a non-Gun Show price and it has almost been a year. Was that from a Shooters Arms (SAM) branch selling at that price? Many gun stores will take advantage of the price especially when the demand for the gun model is high (like the Thunderbolt for example). The price may have gone up but I highly recommend that you purchase in the next Gun Show this year (July). Price should be in the 20-30k range.
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Sir i understand that this must be Gun show prices that you were showing on the video. But may I ask if alam nyo po ba current price ng SAM thunderbolt 2-tone ngayon? Kasi may friend told me that the latest price is close to 44,000 pesos? twice as much as the price shown in the video.
@RayDequina The Philippines is a very gun-loving country :)
Paulmarti 4 months ago 14
@thehotsixer
Partly true but I think you need to do more research. Acceptance of the .45 ACP cartridge design was influenced by the Moro warriors during the Philippine-American war. Do a Google search on: "Battle of Bud Bagsak". If you want to know more, check out the history of the .45 ACP cartridge.
By the way, we're called Filipinos (not Philipinos). :)
TheAgeOfExploration 2 weeks ago 3