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    I am thinking the distinciton of model/metaphor is a important one for you. Because thats how you harness the subjective and the objctive. But really, thats sloppy philosophy.

  • didn't you bring up the distinction in the first place? I think modeling and metaphor making are the same activity, end of story... any threshold is somewhat arbitrary, very carefully constructed metaphors we call models. but that's not a fundamental distinction.

  • There aren't many "very carefully constructed metaphors".

    Models are completely structurely defined. And metaphors are a bit emotive. Even Aristotle (or Donald Davidson) will agree with me.

  • What model is complete?

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  • By the way, there seems to be two types of metaphor. One is the impressionistic one which describes, such as "Richard is a lion". Another is a surrealistic one which creates new meaning such as "this drink is dynamite".

  • Newtonian mechanics is a complete model.

    I thought you wil give me a carefully constructed metaphor.

  • Models and metaphors are different. Models are a complete description (even mathematical). While metaphors, even its meaninig shifts around. You can say "you are stepping on my foot" to show that he wants the other person's foot to be removed. Or you can say "you are stepping on my foot" to mean some kind of game and the other guy is breaking some rule.

  • I see what you mean.

  • Truer words. Ignoring is the mechanism by which we construct meaningful narratives out of the chaos of experience.

  • oh there's really no end to what we can ignore.

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