A reasoned ruling...

I discuss the US Court decision that vaccines have played no part in causing autism in children.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1218720720100312

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[tetsubo57]

@briankofke OK. We stand on either side of a dividing line. Have a good life.

[briankofke]

@tetsubo57 The alternative is to have unbiased studies, similar to the studies used to test drugs, by independent agencies without conflicts of interest. Vaccinate one group, give placebo to another, and give nothing to the third. You would have thought that a study like this had already been done, but sadly it has not, nor has there been any studeis to show the safety of giving the flu shot to a pregnant women, but that is what has been recommended.

[briankofke]

@tetsubo57 You assume that the final word in vaccines is that they are safe and effective and have saved millions of lives. I suggest that there is another side to the story in which vaccines are a giant scam and do more harm then good. You of course will strongly oppose this view because you have been told by people in white coats that vaccines are safe and effective. What I am saying to you is that there is strong evidence to support that vaccines do not work and do harm.

[tetsubo57]

@briankofke You didn't answer my question. What is the alternative?

[briankofke]

@tetsubo57 Pretty obvious you are not a Christian, but this isn't about religion. Tell you what, you post any of the peer reviewed studies you rely so heavily on, and if it was not funded by big pharma and conducted by those with a conflict of interest, I will believe you. Problem is, I have been looking for that very information for a long while now and I can't find a single scientific trial that is not heavily influenced by big pharma. I have a problem with THAT.

[tetsubo57]

@briankofke I'm not Christian but thanks.

I base my opinion of this subject on science. Actual real world research. That has been ongoing for over a century. Peer reviewed and vetted. If that isn't good enough for you, what is? What would you replace vaccines with? Because the alternative is to let millions of people suffer in misery or die. I have a problem with that.

[briankofke]

@tetsubo57 I don't care if you take me seriously. Don't think in your eggocentric world that everyone values your most wise opinions. You make fun of me with a tin foil hat that I wore to make a very specific point, yet you wear a religious hat to get your point across; you think I look rediculous? Well, guess what buddy, you put us both in front of an audience with talking points regarding this issue and you will be bood off the stage. You are a joke. Hope you find Jesus, or he finds you.

[tetsubo57]

@briankofke OK. You want me to take you seriously, correct? You have uploads involving tin hats and the Illuminati. I am now annoyed that I wasted my time discussing this topic with you. Have a nice life. May the mind rays avoid you.

[briankofke]

@tetsubo57 The 1 in 110 children with autism would agree with me. The millions injured and steralized by vaccines in Africa would agree with me. The tens of thousands of young women injureed by the Gardasil vaccine would agree with me. Those poor souls injured and killed by the MMR shot far outnumber those killed by measels; they would agree with me. You live in a fantasy world if you really think that vaccines do no harm. Good for you; ignorance is bliss.

[tetsubo57]

@briankofke The millions of lives that have been saved would disagree with you.